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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Sussex => Topic started by: penny-zzz on Monday 21 November 05 23:10 GMT (UK)
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I have started to do my family history today, because a friend told me about the 1881 cencus and on it i found my 3rd great grandfather walter w Butler his wife mary e Butler could anybody help me with the 1841 - 51 - 61 - 71 91 cenus any information would be much appreciated thank you very much.
Penny
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1871 UK census
RG10/1040 folio 55 page 37
address
26 cavendish place
eastbourne
walter w butler head age 25 draper born sussex hellingley
mary e wife age 27 laundry house keeper born eastbourne
lilian daughter age 1 born eastbourne
1861 Uk census
RG9/567 folio 134 page 9
boarding in the house of moses at smith street eastbourne draper's assistant aged 15
1851 Uk census
with his parents
spring lane hellingley
Walter Butler head age 40 farmer of 146 acres b hellingley
martha wife age 42 farmers wife b sussex
frederick son 14 b hellingley
jane a daughter 14 b hellingley
maria daughter age 11 b hellingley
thomas son age 9 b helingley
walter w son age 5 b hellingley
arthur j son age 3 b hellingley
elizabeth daughter b hellingley
Infant Unamed under 1 month b hellingley
Walter W butler married mary elizabeth waymark marriage registered in the june quarter of 1869
and can be found here
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com
click search and enter names
hope this helps
Angie
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Thanks Angie I cant explain how excited this is making me feel my brother lives in the USA and I have spoken with him last night so he is also wanting to get started with me.
As I said I am a complete novice so I Dont know if you could help me out again by telling me where I can look to get the follolwing information about my family
How can I find the parents of Mary E Waymark born about about 1844 who was the wife of Walter W Butler born about 1846 (I noticed that on the cencus for 1881 walter and mary e butler had a nurse wrok for them who was Emma A waymark who was 14 and wondered if she was a relative of Mary.
How can I also find the parents of Matha born about 1809 who married Walter Butler who was born about 1811.
Angie this is so interestering to actually find out history that goes back before waterloo this is a whole new world to me my evenings will not be boring now thanks again.
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If you look at the top of the Beginners' Board there are tips about how and where to search. www.familysearch.org is a site that has many baptisms and marriages taken from parish records as well as the 1881 census. If you are prepared to pay www.ancestry.co.uk has other census years 1851 - 1901.
From 1837 on you should be able to find Birth, Marriage and Death reocrds and buy the certificates. Before that you need to search parish registers so it is more difficult. Do check the tips on the board. Good luck. You will be hooked now!
Andrea
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Hi well
the best way to go about it for parents and going further back will be to order the marriage certificate for Walter W and his wife Mary E Waymark that will give you their father's names then we can try to get a little further. Birth certificates for walter w and Mary e waymark will give you the father's name and mother's maiden name so this then helps us look for a marriage it is a little confusing at first but you won't be a novice for long I recomend getting a good family tree programme to record all your information in so that you don't need to keep going back and fro with paperwork.
angie
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Penny -zzz
Welcome to Rootschat and especially the Sussex Boards
AngiO
Sorry to butt in here, but a few inaccuracies have crept into your lookup for penny.
Om my copy of the 1851 census; the head of the family in 1851 is WILLIAM, not Walter, the age of Jane A is 13, not 14; Elizabeth is shown as 2 (no age quoted on your lookup) and I think you will find it is Springham, not Spring Lane.
The reference for the 1851 census (not quoted) is:
HO107/ 1638/ Folio 216/ Page 74 - Springham, Hellingly
Chris in 1066
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HI penny-zzz
This is the marriage of William & Martha
Licence
Location: Archdeaconry of Lewes Marriage Licence, Date: 1 Jan 1836:
Groom: William BUTLER, bachelor, Yeoman of Hellingly
Bride: Martha STAPLEY, spinster, of the same parish
Marriage
Location: Hellingly, East Sussex, Date: 4 Jan 1836:
Groom: William BUTLER
Bride: Martha STAPLEY
Chris in 1066
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apologies for my inaccuracies was just excited to be helping in a small way a new starter it was quite late and i was in pain due to a back surgery last week I am usually very thorough with my lookups
sorry once again
angi
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Penny-zzz
Your 1841 census information
HO107/ 1114/ 11 - Spring Ham, Hellingly
BUTLER William, 30, Farmer
............ Martha, 30
............ Frederick, 4
............ Jane, 3
............ Maria, 1
Bennet William, 30, Ag Lab
Johnson Caroline, 25, Female Servant
Rollason Sarah, 11, Female Servant
All born in county of Sussex.
NB. Ages on the 1841 census only were rounded down to the nearest 5 for everyone over the age of 15 - so William could have been 31, 32, 33 or 34
Chris in 1066
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Hello,
I was just looking at the Post Office Directory for Sussex 1878 (at Houghton) - Hurstmonceaux and Gardner Street are next on the page so I took a look for you...
There is a..
Wm Butler, grocer and draper, Gardner Street and
Frederick Butler, farmer, Stunt's Green
Gardner Street is described as a "populous hamlet of Hurstmonceaux parish, on the road from Battle to Hailsham"
No Butlers listed in the 1866 Post Office Directory for Sussex at Hurstmonceaux.
Hope this is of interest :)