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Title: adoptions in Dorset
Post by: aussiegirl10 on Friday 18 November 05 13:19 GMT (UK)
My Query is,
I have an Alice Warwick born to a Richard and Sarah Warrick in 1874.
Sarah was remarried i to a Frank Brewer, alice was in this household. in the 1881 census

Richards brother Charles was married to a Elizabeth Young

Alice was adopted by a Harriet Young  according to the 1901 census.
Would this adoption have been legalised, and if so where would I find a reference for this.  I have searched a2a(access to the Archives with no success)
Regards Tracey
Title: Re: adoptions in Dorset
Post by: Tati on Friday 18 November 05 13:32 GMT (UK)
Hi Tracey,

I think legal adoption started only 1927.

Tanja  :)
Title: Re: adoptions in Dorset
Post by: aussiegirl10 on Friday 03 February 06 12:44 GMT (UK)
Tanja,

It is interesting to note, that Alice,s mother Elizabeth died in 1878,
in 1881 she was listed as a lodger in the Flemington household.(another family name)  but listed as the adopted daughter of Harriett Young in 1901.

I think Harriett is her grandmother.
Your thoughts on this please.
Title: Re: adoptions in Dorset
Post by: aussiegirl10 on Friday 03 February 06 12:46 GMT (UK)
Can I amend that,
she was down as NIECE  in the flemington household.
Title: Re: adoptions in Dorset
Post by: Tati on Friday 03 February 06 13:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Tracey,

I'm lost!  ;D  ;D 
In 1881 she is age 7, born Cranborne, 'daughter' in the household of Frank and Sarah Brewer, along with a George Warwick age 5. 

You say her mother Elizabeth died in 1878? I presume there is a mistake somewhere.

Are you sure she's the same person as the adopted daughter in 1901, who is 4 years out?

I can see a girl matching the 1901 census find on the 1891 census:
RG12/925 50 16
Swathling, Hampshire

John Young, head, 63, Farm servant, b. Horton Dorset
Harriet, wife, 65, b. Christchurch Hants
Alice M M Warwick, granddau, 13, b. Thru Cross Dorset

Was your Alice named Alice M M?

I can't find the record where she is a niece to Flemlingtons  ???

Tanja  :)
Title: Re: adoptions in Dorset
Post by: Tati on Friday 03 February 06 13:51 GMT (UK)
Going back to 1881, John and Harriett have a granddaughter Alice Wood age 3 born Wimborne Dorset living with them... the mystery deepens! 
Title: Re: adoptions in Dorset
Post by: Tati on Friday 03 February 06 13:56 GMT (UK)
OK, have found Alice in 1891. Given the above Alice Warwick already with the Young family in 1891, I don't think she's the same person as the adopted daughter on the 1901 census...

Tanja  :)
 
Title: Re: adoptions in Dorset
Post by: aussiegirl10 on Saturday 04 February 06 00:40 GMT (UK)
Sorry to confuse you, I am even confusing myself.

Alice,s mother was Sarah Warrick(nee Flemington)
remarried Frank Brewer in 1870

Elizabeth Young was her Aunty,

Alice born in 1874.                 1n 1881 Daughter in Brewer household. aged 7

1891 Niece in Flemington Household aged 17.

 In 1901 Adopted daughter of Harriett Young age 23, which would make her birth date 1878.  However I still tend to think this her my alice.

Title: Re: adoptions in Dorset
Post by: Tati on Saturday 04 February 06 02:31 GMT (UK)
Up to you to decide but if she was mine I would rule her out, given that there are 2 Alice War(wi/r)cks in 1891, one of the right age as niece to a family you are sure of, and one a few years out already with the Young family...

Tanja  :)
Title: Re: adoptions in Dorset
Post by: aussiegirl10 on Saturday 04 February 06 09:40 GMT (UK)
The mystery deepens every moment,
I am determined to get to the bottom of this.

You have given me a whole new trail to follow.
regards Tracey.
Title: Re: adoptions in Dorset
Post by: Tati on Saturday 04 February 06 10:05 GMT (UK)
I think I have cracked it.  8)

1901
RG14/3845 71 16
Littleborough, Lancashire
1 Jellous? Yard

George Richard Warwick, head, single, 25, Greengrocer, b. Cranborne Dorset
Alice Hargraves, sister, mar, 27, Cotton spinner, b. do.
Emily Hargraves, niece, 5, b. Littleborough Lancashire

(for the record: George was with his Elliott grandparents in 1891)

What do you say?

Tanja  :)
Title: Re: adoptions in Dorset
Post by: Tati on Saturday 04 February 06 10:16 GMT (UK)
Marriage March 1895
Rochdale registration district
Alice Warwick - Isaiah Hargreaves
8e 80

We're very lucky to have found her with her with her brother  8)
Title: Re: adoptions in Dorset
Post by: aussiegirl10 on Sunday 05 February 06 05:42 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much,
I think you have cracked it,
Elliott was her grandmothers name,
Elizabeth Warrick married Elliott (second marriage)

But it does not mean i am finished, Still so many unanswered questions :)javascript:replaceText(' :)', document.postmodify.message);
SmileyRegards Tracey
Title: Re: adoptions in Dorset
Post by: bolton on Wednesday 08 February 06 17:15 GMT (UK)
 Hi
I am also interested in the Brewer family from Cranborne.
On my great great grandfather David Still/Steel's marriage certificate
 it said that David Brewer was his father so I have been working away on this family to try and find out which David Brewer it was. How I wish I could go back and ask David Steel's mother Charlotte Steel who it was.
I expect she would tell me to mind my own business don't you. I wonder if you have found a David Brewer in your family tree/ Kind regards Christine
Title: Re: adoptions in Dorset
Post by: aussiegirl10 on Thursday 09 February 06 10:38 GMT (UK)
Hi,
The only Brewer,s that I have worked on are related to my tree, which I am still concentrating on however, this is what I have.

George Brewer  Head   1814
jane Brewer       Wife    1821
Charles Brewer  Son      1856
Frank Brewer      Son     1852   married to  sarah Warrick
George Brewer   Son     1839
Harriett Brewer  Dght    1845
Harry Brewer      Son     1860
Henry Brewer     Son      1848
Lannan Brewer   Dght    1854
Willliam Brewer   Son      1846     all Cranborne Dorset.
Regards Tracey
Title: Re: adoptions in Dorset
Post by: bolton on Thursday 09 February 06 13:41 GMT (UK)
Hi
I have in my tree that George Brewer  christened 13 Feb 1814 married 9 Dec 1841 to Cranborne Jane Miller

George was the son of David Brewer who married 19 Jan 1807 Cranborne Mary Amey born 25 Dec 1785 Cranborne died 11 Jan 1831 buried 14 Jan 1831
David Brewer then married Mary Hayward 6 June 1831.

David Brewer was the son of Phillip Brewer born 1704 Edmondsham Dorset who married 16 May 1762 St Giles
Elizabeth Hiscock they had seven children. If you wounld like more about this tree I can copy it for you

I looked for birthdates on my disks and found 
Lewina Brewer christened 31 Aug 1854 Cranborne father George Brewer mother Jane. was Lanna misspelt?)
I also think that this David Brewer maybe the father of David Brewer born 1803 who was a preacher!
It must be one of these two who could be the father of my
GR GR Grandfather David Steel. but which one was it.
Don't think I will ever find out which one.
I have more of this Brewer tree if you want it.
Kind regards Christine.
Title: Re: adoptions in Dorset
Post by: aussiegirl10 on Sunday 12 February 06 10:25 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I am still trying to figure if the family I sent you, is the one related to my tree.

In the 1881 census I have
Frank Brewer  1854
Sarah Brewer  1849 Martin Wiltshire ( Nee Warwick)
Myra Brewer  1878
T John Brewer 1880
Alice Warwick
George Warwick        all Cranborne

I found Alice and George in the 1901 Census However I am unable to find Myra Brewer and T John Brewer. 
I did find a  Frank Brewer 1851  but married to Louisa 1865 with
Ellen Brewer 1894   dght
George Brewer Brother 1841
Gilbert Brewer 1890  son
Mabel brewer Dght   
at the moment I do not have access to the 1871, 1891 census

On the free bdm, there are a few Sarah Brewer  deaths so I am at a loss,
Hope you can help me
Regards Tracey
Title: Re: adoptions in Dorset
Post by: fareham on Friday 18 December 09 04:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Tracey / Christine,

I am also researching my Brewer family from Edmondsham, Dorset.
and I note that you have a Phillip Brewer / Elizabeth Hiscock.  I also have this family in my tree, but I have Phillip as beening bap. c1740 not 1704 as you say, is that a typo error ?
I can also find only five (5) children,  the last one being David, (c. 1787)

If you have further info I would love to have a copy.

Regards,
Tom Brewer.       bb1984@picknowl.com.au
Adelaide, Sth. Australia.


Title: Re: adoptions in Dorset
Post by: kevinhiscock on Monday 21 January 19 21:13 GMT (UK)
I realise this post is sometime ago but Elizabeth Hiscock who married Philip Brewer was my ancestor, would be interested to hear from you if you are still researching this family

Thanks

Kevin