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Title: 1851 Wolverhampton Look-up please - HARTLAND
Post by: Thompson on Wednesday 01 September 04 18:51 BST (UK)
Hi there,

I'm looking for a Caleb Hartland and his family in the 1851 census. He would either be with his family at home or married living with his wife Jane Hartland formerly Haines. Either way he would be living on Pountney Street, West Wolverhampton as that is where he resided in the 1841,1861 & 1871 censuses. Caleb was born in 1826ish in Wolverhampton to Edward & Mary Hartland, he was a Coffee Mill Maker. He has no marriage record (or to that point no death record?!) as far as i'm aware to Jane Haines (b.1826, Wolverhampton), so as said before he could still be at home with parents.

Thank you to everybody who has taken time to carry out searches in the other censuses I originally requested. :) ;) ;D

Regards,

Peter Thompson.
Title: Re: 1841-51,1871 Wolverhampton Look-up - HARTLAND
Post by: gwarwick on Thursday 02 September 04 10:09 BST (UK)
Hi ya. I think I may have found your Kaleb Hartland on the 1841 Census, although age doesn't agree.

Pountney Street, Wolverhampton
HO107/1000/5/36B

Edward Hartland - Aged 65 - Labourer - Born in Staffs
Mary Hartland - Aged 45 - Born in Staffs
John (or Josh) Hartland - Aged 20 - Coffee Mill Labourer A/p? - Born in Staffs
Kaleb Hartland - Aged 13 - Coffee Mill Labourer A/p? - Born in Staffs
Betsey Hartland - Aged 8 - ?
Joseph Fellows - Aged 11 - Born in Staffs

Hope this helps

Regards

Gill
Title: Re: 1841-51,1871 Wolverhampton Look-up - HARTLAND
Post by: Thompson on Saturday 04 September 04 00:00 BST (UK)
Hi Gill,

Thank you very much for your help. That is the correct Hartland family, the I.G.I shows Caleb baptised in 1827 to an Edward & Mary Hartland. During the mid 1800's I would say there was only one 'Caleb Hartland' in Staffordshire so I wouldn't worry about the age!

Thanks once again,

Kindest Regards.

Peter.

(Not to sound cheeky I hope! but can anyone out there find the Hartlands in the 1851 census please? Cheers ;))
Title: Re: 1851 & 1871 Wolverhampton Look-up please - HARTLAND
Post by: Gardener on Sunday 05 September 04 13:08 BST (UK)
Can't do 51  I'm afraid but here is 1871


RG10-2931/78
Wolverhampton, Ecc dist St John's
No 12 Burracks

Caleb Hartland,head,m,45,coffee mill worker,Staffordshire,Wolverhampton
Jane Hartland,wife,m,44,wife,Staffordshire,Wolverhampton
Emma Hartland,dau,unm,17,nurse(?) work,Staffordshire,Wolverhampton
Henry Hartland,son,14,mill worker,Staffordshire,Worlverhampton
Alfred Hartland,son,12,scholar,Staffordshire,Wolverhampton
Rose Hannah Hartland,dau,4,scholar,Staffordshire,Wolverhampton


No 11 Burracks
Joseph Hartland,head,m,41, coffe mill worker,Staffordshire,Wolverhampton
Ann Hartland,wife,m,42,wife,Staffordshiore,Wolverhampton
Joseph Hartland,son,13,scholar,Staffordshire,Wolverhampton

Burracks is squished between bits of Pountney street so probably some new buildings behind it or something.
Title: Re: 1851 & 1871 Wolverhampton Look-up please - HARTLAND
Post by: Thompson on Sunday 05 September 04 20:31 BST (UK)
Hi Gardener,

Thanks a lot, great stuff!!
As I'd said before Caleb Hartland was dead by the 1881 census so your information has helped me narrow down the search for his death record.

Regards,

Peter.

Is there anybody out there who be kind enough do a search for the Hartland's in the 1851 census? ??? Please!! :'(
Title: Re: 1851 Wolverhampton Look-up please - HARTLAND
Post by: DMP on Monday 06 September 04 23:51 BST (UK)
what info have you on the haines ???
Title: Re: 1851 Wolverhampton Look-up please - HARTLAND
Post by: DMP on Wednesday 08 September 04 00:36 BST (UK)
i have looked at all that area and can't see them and i have also used the 1851 staffordshire name index with no joy ???
Title: Re: 1851 Wolverhampton Look-up please - HARTLAND
Post by: cati on Monday 22 June 09 20:55 BST (UK)
Are you still looking for Caleb in 1851? If so, I have him in Upper Penn:

Mary Hartland Widow age 57 Nurse British Subject
Joseph Hartland Son age 20 Coffee Mill Maker b Wolverhampton
Mary Brownhill Granddaughter age 7 b Wolverhampton
Caleb Hartland son age 23 Coffee Mill Maker b Wolverhampton
Jane Hartland Daughter in Law age 22 b Wolverhampton
Edward Hartland Grandson age 3 b Wolverhampton

I'm descended from Joseph.
Title: Re: 1851 Wolverhampton Look-up please - HARTLAND
Post by: Willow 4873 on Friday 17 July 09 15:29 BST (UK)
Hiya Peter and Catibach

I dont know if you are aware but there are a lot of Wolverhampton records on line at http://www.wolverhamptonhistory.org.uk/resources/familyhistory and http://www.wolverhamptonarchives.dial.pipex.com/

Also off FreeREG http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/Search.pl

25.1.1847 at St Peters Wolverhampton

Marriage of Caleb Hartland 20 Millmaker to Jane Haynes 20 parents E Hartland carpenter and F Haynes locksmith

baptisms of their children

Benjamin 29.5.1856
Henry 23.8.1857
Mary Jane 25.7.1861
Rosannah 26.2.1867
Joseph 28.9.1847

and Calebs baptism 1.4.1827

Unfortunately not his death though

Willow x
Title: Re: 1851 Wolverhampton Look-up please - HARTLAND
Post by: cati on Sunday 19 July 09 12:53 BST (UK)
Thanks Willow: I was aware of the excellent Wolverhampton websites,  :) but all information is useful.... now where on earth did he die....  ???
Title: Re: 1851 Wolverhampton Look-up please - HARTLAND
Post by: Thompson on Sunday 20 September 09 23:07 BST (UK)
 Thanks for the lookups guys, they're much appreciated.

 Haven't been on this site for a while and was pleasantly surprised to see my Hartlands amongst other families have been looked into further!
 An update if i may? Caleb Hartland still hasn't been found in way of death records, Wolverhampton Council confirmed to me that he is not buried with or for that matter in the same cemetery as his wife or any of the other mainstream cemeteries in the locality. I'm rather hoping he's in a family plot elsewhere in the city or that a missing persons report will be found in the old newspapers if all else fails??! For such an unusual name combo, Caleb Hartland is proving to be a toughy!
 Any more ideas on where to look would be more than appreciated.

Cheers,
Peter.
Title: Re: 1851 Wolverhampton Look-up please - HARTLAND
Post by: cati on Thursday 24 September 09 22:24 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

Afraid I don't have any more information on Caleb - I believe the Hartlands came from Sedgeley, so perhaps we ought to look there, but why we can't find his death I have no idea.

Out of interest, where was Jane buried?

I have a little information about Caleb's father Edward (our mutual ancestor) and the descendents of Caleb's brother Joseph, if you're interested..

cati
Title: Re: 1851 Wolverhampton Look-up please - HARTLAND
Post by: Thompson on Thursday 01 October 09 21:16 BST (UK)
Hi Cati,

 Jane was buried in the Merridale Municipal Cemetery on Jeffcock Road, not too far away from where the family resided.
 Any information that you're willing to share on the Hartlands would be much appreciated, I too will provide you with the info I have collected over the past few years.

Peter.
Title: Re: 1851 Wolverhampton Look-up please - HARTLAND
Post by: cati on Saturday 10 October 09 18:19 BST (UK)
Thanks Peter - it may be a week or two before I get all my hartland info to you as at the moment I'm in the middle of a rather complicated house move (not too far from Jeffcock Road!) - however, I will let you have all the details I have as soon as I can