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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Inverness => Topic started by: breakish on Sunday 13 November 05 21:55 GMT (UK)
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doing really well researching my family tree and now as far back as my ggg grandfather who is shown as 65 years in the 1841 cencus living in lower breakish skye, married to catharine robertson and has three children at this time john 25 years ( my gg grandfather ) donald 15 years and jane 13 years old, can anybody help to add anymore to my quest especially with donald and catharine
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just to clarify my ggg grandfather was donald macpherson and my ggg grandmother was catharine robertson
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Have you tried the MacPhersons of the Hebrides web-site, if not can pass you on to an administrator for password, site is great everything MacPherson, sure someone will be able to help.
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Have you tried the MacPhersons of the Hebrides web-site, if not can pass you on to an administrator for password, site is great everything MacPherson, sure someone will be able to help.
Can you post the link?
Thanks! Deb
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donnie i am member of this site, it is a good site but is more for benbecula and south uist macphersons, these are different macphersons to the skye macphersons, there are probably five differents septs of macpherson in scotland, the skye macpherson descend from the red parson in the 15th century, they are know as the " little clan from skye " and came to skye with hugh macdonald and ousted the macleods from sleat, there is also macphersons from argyll that are linked to the campbells, the south uist macphersons linked to mcmuirrich and the badenoch macphersons the most common macphersons, i have paternal bloodties with the skye macphersons and the badenoch macphersons
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Wow! Thanks for the history Breakish - that is very interesting stuff. :)
I have quite a few MacPhersons in my tree, a lot of them collateral to my main line of McLure, including my 4x G. Grandmother - Christina MacPherson who married Farquhar McLure sometime around 1770. Unfortunately, I know nothing more about her as pr's are not available for Sleat during this time period.
Thanks again for the very interesting thread!
Deb
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Hello,
I am also looking for some Macpherson ancestors - probably of Aird in Sleat.
I have the following details from a family tree, but we don't know how correct they are (until we get to John) and we don't know when they came to Skye. The family rumour is that they came to Skye after the Jacobite Rebellion 1745. via Loch Hourn in a dung cart - lovely!
My 6 x great grand father was Finlay Macpherson
My 5 x great grandfather was Ewen Macpherson
My 4 x great grandfather was Dugald or Dougald Macpherson
My 3 x grandfather was John Macpherson
We have the names of 2 of Dugald's sons - John and Kenneth.
John was born circa 1797 and died about 1838. He was married to Cath McInnes (b 1814 parents - Donald McInnes - blacksmith and Anne MacGillivary /MacKinnon prob of Camiscross). Incidentally if you know any more about this line I'd be delighted to hear from you.
They had 2 sons together: Malcolm b 1835 (my 2x great grandfather) and Martin b 1838.
We know that Kenneth took his entire family to Australia in 1854 on board the Hornet - port of arrival Geelong. Have no record of them after that & would also love to know what happened to them.
Malcolm remained in Skye all his life, and the family croft was only vacated in 1922. As far as we know they had been living at no 6 Aird for well over 120 years.
Many thanks,
Rachel
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Rachael, don't know about the dung cart, there were no carts in Gairloch in the 1830s, Skye would be no different, but the clan could have been doing with an alarm clock, they arrived late for most of the battles they never took part in!.......Skoosh.
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skoosh that is obviously tongue in cheek, the Macpherson were a very powerful clan prior to the 1745 rising, controlling the Wade roads via ther cattle watch scheme in what is now the A9 road, they had a bond of friendship with the Frasers and Camerons where Cluny daughters had married into the clans and vice versa. the Macphersons were also one of six clans that marched to Derby in the 1745 rebellion and were the instrumental clan in the skirmish at Clifton Moor on their return.
The clan regrouped in the Spring of 1746 and marched to Nairn on the ill fated trip, on the night afore the battle of Culloden, to route the Redcoats on King George's Birthday where they Jacobites thought that they would find their enemies drunk, which was found not to be the case. The Macphersons marched back to Culloden the same night under darkness a round distance of about 26 miles and were sleeping in the heather suffering from starvation and tiredness when Culloden began.
Antecdotal information suggests that a witch told The Butcher Cumberland that if the Macphersons were to enter the battle carrying the Bratach Uaine (the Green Flag) then the Hanoverians would lose.
Our Chief Cluny Macpherson died in exile in Dunkirk after having spent 7 years hidden in a cave in Badenoch and was buried outside the Carmelite Monastery because he would not renounce his Protestant Faith.
So Macphersons do not need an alarm clock or to prove their worth in the Jacobite era as they lost everything they had "fighting for Charlie"
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Dear Skoosh,
Thanks for replying so quickly to my post.
I have been doing a little 'research' of my own on Highland carts following your post and have found out a couple of interesting facts. I.F.Grant's book 'Highland Folk ways' is particularly informative on this subject (cf. chapter entitled 'Communication and Transport). Apparently primitive carts called 'kellachs' were in use by the 1700s - particularly on the fringes of the Highlands. According to Grant sledges were used in the districts of Kintail and Gairloch until the 1930s as they were more suited to the terrain. When Hugh Miller took the newly made road to the west to work in Gairloch in 1823 he noticed 'two abandoned carts lying beside it'.
I actually don't believe for a second that my 5 or 6x great grandparents came to Skye in a dung cart - but it makes for a nice wee tale (which is probably why someone made it up). Roads were either so dire or non existent in the 1700s that it would have been impossible to take a cart on their suggested route.
Anyway, are you able to expand on your comment 'the clan could have been doing with an alarm clock, they arrived late for most of the battles they never took part in'? I am assuming you are refering to the Jacobite Rebellion of 1745? I was aware that Clan Macpherson of Cluny was 'late' for Culloden, but a number of Macphersons fought under Clan Ranald. Ancestry.co.uk has uploaded a fascinating document called 'Directory ofScots Banished to the American Plantations 1650 - 1772'. Some 2 dozen Macphersons who fought in the various Jacobite wars are listed. Are there other shameful tales that I need to be aware of before continuing my research? :)
Rachel
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Rachel, is it possible to yourself upload the document about the Scots getting banished and send it on as I don't have Ancestry or is it pay per view. Thanks.
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Hi Donnie,
Send me your email and I'll zap you the link to it.
Rachel.
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Guys, I seem to have ruffled a few Macpherson feathers here! the Clan did very well at Clifton but Culloden? oh dear, absent. Invernahavon! oh dear, late. Mulroy! (last clan battle)jings! late again Miss! I'm just away to check the Attendance Records for the Clan MacMhuirich? at Prestonpans, Killiecrankie & Sherrifmuir, I shall return! Now do youse Guys know the Macpherson Clan Mag' is online? called "Creag Dhubh.". Wonder what "Must Do Better" is in the Gaelic?........Skoosh.
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Rachel,
My descendants' direct line from my grandmother to forefathers in Victoria, Australia... Thelma Macpherson -->(F) Thomas Macpherson-->(GF) Archibald Macpherson ---> (GGF) John Macpherson of Aird, Sleat.
I would like to know who was Kenneth's parent were? Dugal & Sarah?
Ross
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Hi Ross,
I have Kenneth's parents as Dugald McPherson and Marion McGillivray. They were probably born c.1765, married c.1784 (around the time their first known child was born), and appear to have died before the 1841 census was taken.
Kenneth Mcpherson had a brother Martin who emigrated from Skye on board the William Nicol in 1837, and settled in Kilmore, Victoria.
I have plenty more info on this family, so feel free to email me directly if you want more details.
Rachel
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Come on Skoosh, your joshing missed the mark here. Not fair to blame a set of O'Docherty 'sons of the parson' Mac 'a phearsain MacPhersons from the 'little red clan' in Skye for the poor time-keeping of the mainlamd MacMhuirich clan with whom they have no blood relationship at all. Indeed, some were in all probability in arms in the '45 but that will have been in the MacDonald/MacLeod Militia companies on the Hanoverian payroll, theoretically looking out for Royal Charlie during his 'skulking' in the islands in the early summer of 1746.
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Very Good Angus, by the time Charlie was "skulking" in the islands, the Macpherson country had been burned by the Mackay's and the redcoats had slim pickings when they arrived. They had little success in hunting for the "forked purses" of Prince Charlie, Cluny had the cash well stashed.
I believe Wolfe had a scheme to lead a suicide platoon to assasinate Cluny, the retribution following would result in the clan's extermination. Skoosh.