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Title: Look up for Shoreditch 1841 please
Post by: bjo on Sunday 13 November 05 21:46 GMT (UK)
Hello folks,
I'm not having much luck with my last posts and so I thought that I would take a liberty and see if I can find this family that I have in 1851

1851 census
5a Grays Buildings
Shoreditch
Matthew Carey Head aged 48 Bricklayers labourer born Ireland
Ellen Carey Daughter aged 20 born St. Lukes Middx Chip box maker
Thomas Carey Son aged 10 born Shoreditch

Hopefully there will be a wife in 1841 as Thomas Carey is born around then

Thankyoy very much
Brenda
Title: Re: Look up for Shoreditch 1841 please
Post by: kennyb on Wednesday 16 November 05 00:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Brenda,the address in 51 is 5a Guys Buildings. This is for anyone who looks the address up in 41 for you.
                                                               Ken
Title: Re: Look up for Shoreditch 1841 please
Post by: bjo on Wednesday 16 November 05 17:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Ken.
Thanks for taking the time to reply to my post.
I do believe that the address is as my original post Grays rather than Guys Bldgs.
I looked at the previous census pages and it did look more like Grays.
I did a Google search and came up with quite a few Grays and only one Guys Buildings in Shoreditch.
I think that the single mention of Guys was a misread census by a fellow researcher.
I will of course attempt to find a mention in 1841 at both these named places.
Regards
Brenda
Title: Re: Look up for Shoreditch 1841 please
Post by: kennyb on Wednesday 16 November 05 21:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Brenda,I looked at the census,and it is Guys. I also checked the name in the East of London Family History Society book. That shows Cary at Guys Buildings,St Leonards,Shoreditch. Also if you look on the census street index,you will only see Guys Bldgs.
                                                                         Ken.
Title: Re: Look up for Shoreditch 1841 please
Post by: bjo on Wednesday 16 November 05 23:36 GMT (UK)
Hello Ken,
Thank you for helping out with this.  I must say that I am totally confused (as usual with this ancestor hunting)
I've had another Google and the mentions of Grays Bldgs do appear to be posts from people querying the address.
I wonder where in Shoreditch the buildings were.  According to the census quite close to Kingsland road. I wonder if I could get hold of some old maps.  I go to Hackney frequently and I reckon maybe either the Hackney Archives or library may have a record of Guys buildings.
Brenda
Title: Re: Look up for Shoreditch 1841 please
Post by: kennyb on Thursday 17 November 05 00:50 GMT (UK)
If you go to www.motco.com and search the index for Red Lion Street 11-16 that is where guys Bldgs was. It was placed at 145 Kingsland road, unfortunately it doesn't show on the map. The1841 ref is HO107/709  1  F 15-16
                                                                 Ken
Title: Re: Look up for Shoreditch 1841 please
Post by: bjo on Friday 18 November 05 19:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks Ken,
I went to Kingsland Rd today and got an idea of the area where the buildings were.
Brenda
Title: Re: Look up for Shoreditch 1841 please
Post by: kennyb on Saturday 19 November 05 01:02 GMT (UK)
Aah,Kingslansd road,my old stamping grounds.  ;D
Title: Re: Look up for Shoreditch 1841 please
Post by: bjo on Saturday 19 November 05 15:14 GMT (UK)
Same here !!
Pie and mash shop gone but one still open in Broadway market.
Brenda (Kingsmead Estate girl !!!)
Title: Re: Look up for Shoreditch 1841 please
Post by: kennyb on Sunday 20 November 05 00:49 GMT (UK)
always went to Cookes at Dalston,though we had two in Hoxton market. Try explaining this to someone outside of London.  ;D
                                              Ken   
                                                     Hoxton boy
Title: Re: Look up for Shoreditch 1841 please
Post by: bjo on Sunday 20 November 05 12:24 GMT (UK)
My first job as a Saturday girl was Cookes in Kingsland Rd. £1 and five shillings for the day/double pie and mash for lunch and two apple pies to take home !!!
I had two researcher 'cousins' over from Canada last month and we did the FRC plus I gave them a guided tour of Hoxton/Shoreditch and all the East end where our ancestors had come from.  The meal was, as you guessed pie and mash and they were quite impressed !!!  when I told them that years ago the pepper pot was on a piece of string on the counter to prevent someone pinching it they were amazed !!
Brenda
Title: Re: Look up for Shoreditch 1841 please
Post by: kennyb on Sunday 20 November 05 14:38 GMT (UK)
Such fond memories, Took a friend from Nottingham once, he wanted to know if he could " have his without the green stuff". Another thought we were sharing the plate. I think that was known as " the good old days" :)
                             Ken
Title: Re: Look up for Shoreditch 1841 please
Post by: Bryant on Tuesday 18 April 06 06:50 BST (UK)
Memories.........someone should write a song called that  ;D

what happened to the lookup................it's a chat page  >:(

1841
EAST TIPPLY FARM HOUSE, HOXTON TOWN, ST LEONARD SHOREDITCH, TOWER HAMLETS, MIDDLESEX
MATTHEW CAREY  45  LABOURER  NO
ANN            "         35                    NO
MARY           "         7                     YES
----------------------

Regards
Bryant   8)
Title: Re: Look up for Shoreditch 1841 please
Post by: Gary Allison on Monday 30 June 25 10:59 BST (UK)
Hi.

Looking for any info re the following & any info would be fantastic.

Regards,

Gary
Australia.

Name, Aliases & Gender
Name:   Mary Butler
Aliases:   none
Gender:   f
Birth, Occupation & Death
Date of Birth:   23rd September, 1769 Father William, mother Mary?
Title: Re: Look up for Shoreditch 1841 please
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 30 June 25 11:07 BST (UK)
Hi.

Looking for any info re the following & any info would be fantastic.

Regards,

Gary
Australia.

Name, Aliases & Gender
Name:   Mary Butler
Aliases:   none
Gender:   f
Birth, Occupation & Death
Date of Birth:   23rd September, 1769 Father William, mother Mary?

I see you have added this query to what appears to be an unrelated post.

What exactly are you after.  Where is this birth supposed to have taken place, what is the source of that information