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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Down => Topic started by: gjil on Sunday 13 November 05 11:56 GMT (UK)
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Seeking information about Annie Rooney, born 1911, in County Down. Her father was Patrick Rooney, farmer from Ballykinlar.
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May be able to help with this one.
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rooneys were a familiar name at this time to my knowledge there were rooneys in ballykinler lower&middle both of whom i knew off i have some records of deceased members of the parish if i can be of help let me know
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Hi Athlone,
the Annie Rooney i am looking for was born in 1910/1911. On her marriage certificate, dated 13 august 1932 it says that her father,Patrick Rooney, farmer from Ballykinler. Her husband was in the british army at Ballykinler at that time.
I am not sure if she was born in Ballykinler, could have been Killyleagh, but definitely in County Down.
gjil
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Hi Jil,
You left the Chatterbox before I returned with this information. http://www.ni-libraries.net Since you mentioned both Ballykinlar and Killyleagh you might consider writing to the library at Killyleagh. Ballykinlar is serviced by a mobile unit from Ballynahinch Library. I have posted this on http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,107551.0.html
I spotted the name Kenyon. There was a Miss Brenda Kenyon at Strathearn School when my sister was there in the 1950s. Miss Kenyon, as far as my sister can recall, was a science teacher. One of her pastimes when not teaching was the sport of fencing. I think she was well known in that sport in the north of Ireland. I know it is a long shot but a note to the Northern Ireland Fencing Union might reveal more information about Miss Kenyon. My sister told me it was very hard as a fourteen year old to judge the ages of her teachers. I am guessing Brenda to be about the right age to be a daughter of Annie and Jack. http://www.nifu.co.uk
Claro indeed is in the Harrogate region of North Yorkshire
Best Wishes, Chris
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Hello Jil,
I had a conversation with a friend yesterday evening and learnt that the family of Jacob Pyper of Ballykinlar may be related to the Rooney family. My friend has the necessary details and will mention this matter to his father. I hope to have further information for you later in the week.
Best Wishes,
Chris
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Thanks Chris for all your help.
gjil
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Hi Belfirle, Athlone, Christopher,
I have received the second marriage certificate concerning Anne/Annie Rooney.
It gives her age as 32 in 1948, but on her first marriage certificate, dated the 13th August 1932, it states her age as, 21. So she has lied about her age and I'm unsure now of which year she was born. I thought it was 1910/1911.My mother was born in 1933 so Annie Rooney was either 17 or 22/23 when she had her. It does state on both of them that her father was called,Patrick Rooney, a farmer labourer. from Ballykinler, Lower.
gjil
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gjil,
You have found no siblings for Annie. Do you think she was an only child?
Chris
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Chris,
I don't know if she had any siblings. I presume so as she came from a catholic family.
gjil
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Gjil,
Need to find siblings and her mother then?
Chris
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Here is an update on my search for my grandmother, Annie Rooney. After years of searching I have finally found her. I manage to find her daughter from her second marriage. She died in 1997. The good news is we are in contact and she is sending me some photo's of her which I am very excited about. She also told me that she had 15 siblings and they lived in Plantation street in Killyleagh, Down Patrick. So if anyone with Irish tips can point me in the right direction in searching for her siblings. Thanks.
gjil ;D
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1911 census for Co. Down just put online last week. Looks like this could be Annie Rooney with family living at Shrigley Village, Killyleagh: Patrick Rooney 30 agricultural labourer, wife Annie 25 married 8 years mother of 4 children, Patrick 6, Cathiern 5, Sarah 3, Annie 1.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Killyleagh/Shrigley_Village/240335/
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I wonder if that is her because on her death certificate it says she was born 12 July 1912 in Belfast. I know she was in Killyleagh in the late 1920's but do not know when the family moved there. She also lied about her age on 2 marriage certificates so we don't really know what her age was.
gjil :)
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Information on death certificate was given by an informant who could easily not have known correct date but you are wise to be sceptical since her age wasn't consistant in earlier records.
What about the relative you were in contact with that mentioned 15 children in the family? If you could find names of older children you might be able to pin down parents and older siblings in 1911 census.
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Just had a good look at the image and I see that Annie was born in Belfast so still a possiblity.
gjil :)
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Just found out that Annie Rooney's mother was called Annie Andrews which confirms the birth I found sometime ago on Ancestry Ireland but was not sure if that was here because of the conflicting stories about her date of birth.
Date Of Birth 11/02/1910
Date of Baptism 14/02/1910
First name ANNIE
Surname ROONEY
Fathers PATRICK ROONEY
Fathers Occupation LABOURER
Mother ANNIE ANDREWS
The address says 51 Lisburn road Belfast which I have just found from a link posted by,Christopher, was a Union Workhouse and also says father's address unknown. I am taking a guess that it is them in the 1911 census which aghadowey posted. There were 17 siblings in total most of them born in Killyleagh
gjil :)
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aghadowey,
Yesterday I spoke to a son of Annie Rooney's brother Patrick who is on the 1911 census you found for me. He has confirmed that it is the correct family you found. I found the son by putting a message in the Down Recorder asking for any information on the Rooney family. Thanks.
gjil :)
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Glad to hear it turned out so well. best wishes, aghadowey
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JUST CAME ACROSS THIS SITE --My father was Arthur Rooney born 1925 lived in Plantation Killyleagh he had 15/16 siblings his father was Patrick Rooney and mother Annie Rooney nee Andrews
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Welcome to Rootschat, Roon. You have to make at least 3 posts before using PM (personal message) system to exchange email addresses, recent family details, etc. with gjil but it's nice that you found the postings here.
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Thanks for the tip just so excited at finding all this info :)
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Have just sent gjil a PM to check this thread in case she doesn't get notification that there are new posts here. Hopefully she'll be in touch soon.
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Hi roon,
Welcome to Rootschat. I do believe we are related. Arthur's sister Annie was my grandmother and that is her picture with my grandad on my profile. If you can reply to this the you can PM me.
gjil :)
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Yes it looks like we're cousins! ;D I new most of the aunts and uncles or at least of them but Annie ? :-\ I Can recall 15 of them
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roon,
I should have said that Annie was known as, Sis or Sissy. I will Pm you with my email addy so we can correspond further.
gjil :)
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My aunt was married to a brother of this family. Sadly she passed away on 1st Sept this year. Was helping her with the family tree. I have a few photos and bits of info on the family. Would like to fill in the tree for the rest of the family.
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Hi epat,
If you Pm me I'm sure we can exchange info on the family.
gjil