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Title: 1861 Census Lookup Please Suffolk
Post by: geniesearcher on Tuesday 31 August 04 07:12 BST (UK)
Hi


I am looking for any information on George Henry Howell born approx 1850/51 in the Ipswich area of Suffolk, his parents are John Howell  and Sarah Ann ? Have checked the 1871 and 1881 and they are not there, Is anyone able to do a lookup for 1861.
any info greatly appreciated.

Kindest regards
Joanne
Australia-[
Title: Re: 1861 Census Lookup Please Suffolk
Post by: KarenEssex on Tuesday 31 August 04 17:57 BST (UK)
Hi Joanne

Any chance of a bit more information if you have it?

In 1881 was George Henry Howell married? if so to whom was he married?

Any idea of what his occupation may have been, ie have you found him on the 1901 census?

any extra information would be agreat help


Thank you

karen
Title: Re: 1861 Census Lookup Please Suffolk
Post by: sandiep on Tuesday 31 August 04 19:54 BST (UK)
I have the suffolk 1851 index and thought this seemed interesting  no George Henry but if he was born 1851 he might not be on this one.
this family moved about a lot but last 2 children were born in Ipswich!
John age 34 born Salford Lancs
Sarah age 34 born Macclesfield \Cheshire
James age 14 born salford Lancs
Elizabeth age 12  born salford lancs
emma age 9 born stratford essex
sarah age 7 born broxbourne essex
william age 5 born broxbourne essex
John age 3 born IPSWICH suffolk
Hannah age 1 born IPSWICH suffolk

have to look at 1871 etc see if they match up  sandie
Title: Re: 1861 Census Lookup Please Suffolk
Post by: sandiep on Tuesday 31 August 04 20:10 BST (UK)
 Edward Bridges 62  Framlingham, Suffolk, England Head  Framlingham  Suffolk   
 Ellen Bridges 31  Framlingham, Suffolk, England Daughter  Framlingham  Suffolk   
 Mary Bridges 66  Monk Soham, Suffolk, England Wife  Framlingham  Suffolk   
 George H Howel 21  Wickham Market, Suffolk, England Lodger  Framlingham  Suffolk   
 
 
 
found this one in 1871 spelt with 1 L  what do you think?  sandie
Title: Re: 1861 Census Lookup Please Suffolk
Post by: KarenEssex on Tuesday 31 August 04 20:51 BST (UK)

Ig Sandie has managed to find your george Howell then this certainly matches the information she gave on the 1871 census. was the reason I asked if he was married in 1881 and to whom. If he married a jane then this is your man


1881 Census
Household:

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
 George HOWELL   Head   M   Male   29   Wickham (Mkt), Suffolk, England   House Painter     
 Jane HOWELL   Wife   M   Female   29   Seaham, Norfolk, England       
 Elizabeth HOWELL   Daur      Female   8   Blyford, Suffolk, England       
 Mary J. HOWELL   Daur      Female   6   Blyford, Suffolk, England       
 Agnes HOWELL   Daur      Female   4   Holton, Suffolk, England       
 George A. HOWELL   Son      Male   3   Holton, Suffolk, England       
 Alice L. HOWELL   Daur      Female   2   Carlton, Suffolk, England       
 Edith M. HOWELL   Daur      Female   6 m   Carlton, Suffolk, England       


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Title: Re: 1861 Census Lookup Please Suffolk
Post by: krisesjoint on Wednesday 01 September 04 00:14 BST (UK)
I Had a look at Wickham Market in 61 and only c two households of Howells headed by George and Elizabeth and William and Ann. No George... no John and Sarah.... Thes discs r not indexed Joanne so to look at Ipswich without knowing at least the parish would take me all week!.... should I come up with anything when I am going through Ipswich for other things in the future (Ive added Howell to my list)I will get back to u unless u can b more specific on where in Ipswich u would like me to look? Sorry
Kris
Title: Re: 1861 Census Lookup Please Suffolk
Post by: geniesearcher on Wednesday 29 September 04 07:13 BST (UK)
Hi

Thankyou so much to everyone who has helped, I don't have alot of information I do know that George Henry Howell was in Australia in 1878 as this was the year that he married, however I cannot find him on any shipping lists, also I have not been able to locate a death for him in Australia, which makes the search harder. I do know that he was an Engineer as was his father John Howell.
This is all the info that I have.

Title: Re: 1861 Census Lookup Please Suffolk
Post by: geniesearcher on Thursday 30 September 04 04:53 BST (UK)
Hi Sandie

I think you may have the right family on the 1851 census that you checked. Sarah aged 34 in Cheshire wife of John, from searching further if I have the right one sarah died in 1857 in Ipswich.
I did find on the 1881 census a John born Salford Lancs married to a Urania, not sure of her maiden name or when they may have married. but it does state that he was an Engine driver which is correct for my John Howell.
Is there any way that I could find out Sarah's maiden name.

Thanks
Jo
Title: Re: 1861 Census Lookup Please Suffolk
Post by: krisesjoint on Thursday 30 September 04 05:16 BST (UK)
Hi Jo....Happy Happy.. I found them in 1871 4 u  ;D  ;D Step daughter and all  ;)

RG10/1751 ED 19 Folio 112 Page 24 Entry 138
Albert Street
Ipswich St Mary Stoke


HOWELL John Head 54 b Salford Lancashire Engine Driver
HOWELL Maria Wife 41 b Thornham Parva Suffolk
HOWELL Frances dau 14 b Ipswich Suffolk
HOWELL Minny M dau 7 b Ipswich Suffolk
SCARLETT Maria E step sau 15 b Bermondsey London

Tis ya happy! now I know where to look I can try 61  ;D

Enjoy I may b back
Kris ;D
Title: Re: 1861 Census Lookup Please Suffolk
Post by: krisesjoint on Thursday 30 September 04 05:35 BST (UK)
hedehe Here it be! ;)

RG9/1163 Folio 13 Page 22 Entry 105
6 Albert Street
St Peter Ipswich


HOWELL John Head 44 Widow b Salford Lancashire Engine Driver
HOWELL Elizabeth dau 21b Salford Lancashire Dressmaker
HOWELL Emma dau 19 b Stratford Essex Servant
HOWELL Sarah L dau 17 b Broxbourne Herts Servant
HOWELL John son 13 b Ipswich Scholar
HOWELL George son 8 b Ipswich Scholar
HOWELL Frances J dau 6 b Ipswich Scholar
HOWELL Henry J son 4 b Ipswich Scholar

Feel like ive done something constructive now
Hope its made your day  :P
Kris  ;D
Title: Re: 1861 Census Lookup Please Suffolk
Post by: geniesearcher on Thursday 30 September 04 05:48 BST (UK)
Hi Kris

Thankyou Thankyou so much you are right this has definately made my day. It narrows down the dates of him coming out to Australia, and seen as I cannot find a death for him here who knows maybe he went to good ole England.

Thankyou again so very very much

Happy happy

Jo
Title: Re: 1861 Census Lookup Please Suffolk
Post by: krisesjoint on Thursday 30 September 04 06:03 BST (UK)
Yes Jo I was pleased myself I went to the disc for St Mary Stoke and there was only a couple of pages then it changed to St Peter for bout 30 page I nearly skipped it and headed straight for where St Mary would resume but thought I may as well keep my eye out and only a couple of pages in there they were same street even. I just couldnt beleive it ..the quickest ever ive done a disc lookup I think. I did have the name on my list and have kept my eyes open as I have been looking through parts of Ipswich. I did all of St Margaret yesterday looking for a couple of things in fact....then this clue in 71 and I put my finger on him instantly...If only they could all b so easy. I have been back to 71 looking for George since it appears he is only about 18 but had no luck so I guess either he sailed at an early age or mayb he has slipped over the border to Norfolk to work.

Glad u r happy. Always makes me happy when I finally find something I know someone has been after 4 ages

Good Luck with it
Kris