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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Australia Lookups completed => Topic started by: lucretia666 on Wednesday 09 November 05 09:12 GMT (UK)
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hi all,
need help! i have two men in my tree george and joseph glue who were sent to sydney as convicts i have details about the passenger list and the rest of the stuff, but my question is......
how do you find out what they were convicted of?? is there anyway of finding this out??
many thanks all
regards
luc666
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Check this link out
http://www.convictcentral.com/index.html
Regards
Riccoh
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Hi,
GLEW, George. Per "Atlas", 1819 (Also known as GLUE)
(From Colonial Secretary Papers)
If you have the Convict Indent, it will say were he was charged. If it was in the London area, his trial may have been held at the Old Bailey.
Otherwise it will be the local county quarter sessions or assizes.
The Old Bailey does have a George GLUE charged with Simple Grand Larceny 6 Sept 1832 (too late for your guy probably). He was imprisoned for 6 months. There are no references to his brother Joseph, so it looks like it may have been a county court.
(Did he possibly come from Rogate, Sussex? - just a guess - found brothers George and Joseph Glue or Glew - sons of Thomas and Ann on "familysearch")
Rgds
Di
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hi all,
thanks for the info, shall give it a go!
thanks lady di, i wasnt sure how they fitted into the tree, you have just solved it for me.... bless you!!!
many thanks
luc666
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I just found the entry for George Glue in the 1828 census.
Glew, George, aged 25, Free by servitude, Atlas, 1828, 7 years, Protestant, Occupation: Nailor, Residing Market Street, Sydney.
Glew, Mary, aged 25, born in colony, Protestant.
No sign of Joseph. He may have been convicted later. The year of arrival given in the census is probably incorrect.
Cheers
Leonie
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The 1823-1823 Muster states:
Glew, George, Convict, Atlas, 1819, 7 years, Govt Employ Carters Barracks, Sydney
Again no Joseph.
Leonie
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The Atlas arrived in Sydney on 19 Oct 1819 having sailed from Gravesend on 10 June 1819. There was only one fatality amongst the convicts during the voyage.
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Confusingly there are two marriage records for George in 1826:
Glew, Thomas G m. Morrison, Mary
Church: St Phillip's Church of England, Sydney
Ref: V18263746 3B/1826
Glew, George m. Morrison, Mary
Church: St Jame's Church of England, Sydney
Ref: V1826168 10/1826
I can'f find any children of this marriage.
The most likely birth and death records for Mary are:
Born: 1804 Mary H. Morrison - (ref: V180497 5/1804) Parents: George and Mary)
Died: 1856 Maitland - aged 52 ( ref: 2301/1856)
There are a couple of other possibilities but these are the most likely.
I found some children of Joseph and Harriett Glue in the 1840s - this is most likely when Joseph was transported out.
Leonie
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Unfortunately none of my digging has uncovered the ship's muster and indent, which usually contained the date and place of trial. The only way I've found to get this is to go to the Mitchell Library and look at their microfilm records.
Leonie
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Hi Luc666
Are the 2 convicts your referring to are the following:-
Arrived on the 'Hooghley' in 1834
GLUE George - 'Certificate of Freedom' 14/2/1842 Ref: 42/0236 & Ticket of leave 39/101 SRRef: 4/4371 Film: 1010
GLUE Joseph - 'Certificate of Freedom' 30/6/1842 Ref: 42/0997 SRRef: 4/4374 Filim: 1011
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thanks all
thanks for all your time and hard work! i now have the details for which they were convicted for!!!
george came back to england (WHY!!!!!) and joseph stayed out in syndey!
thanks all again
luc666
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Joseph was convicted of stealing potatoes and George convicted of robbing a barn