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Title: Beard (Oldbury)
Post by: alf on Tuesday 08 November 05 09:06 GMT (UK)
Any person researching the BEARD family who lived at Oldbury.

The only information I have to date is:- Enoch Beard, c about 1893, married Elizabeth Jackson in 1914. Enoch was one of the fallen in the Great War. His parents were John & Phoebe, and his brothers John, Joseph & William  Any help with this family and ancestors would be appreciated

Regards
Alf Beard
Title: Re: Beard (Oldbury)
Post by: Tati on Wednesday 09 November 05 11:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Alf,

Do you already have the family in 1901?
RG13/2716 94 32
Oldbury, Worcestershire
2 Cyprus Street

John Beard, head, 42, Carriage works labourer, b. Worcs Oldbury
Phoebe, wife, 44, b. Staffs Blackheath
John, son, mar, 22, (sthg) puddler, b. Oldbury
Florence, dau-in-law, mar, 21, b. Dudley
Joseph, son, 14, (stgh) carrier/Pudd, b. Oldbury
William, son, 11, b. Oldbury
Enoch, son, 7, b. Oldbury
John Thomas, grandson, 3mths, b. Oldbury

Tanja  :)
Title: Re: Beard (Oldbury)
Post by: Tati on Wednesday 09 November 05 11:22 GMT (UK)
1891
RG12/2265 83 32&33
Oldbury, Worcs
9 Bridge Street

John Beard, head, 32, Underhand Shingler, b. Oldbury
Pheobe, wife, 32, b. Mincep Lane (?) Staff
John, son, 13, scholar, b. Oldbury
Thomas, son, 10, scholar, b. do.
Jemima, dau, 7, scholar, b. do.
Joseph, son, 5, scholar, b. do.
William, son, 2, b. do.

Tanja  :)
Title: Re: Beard (Oldbury)
Post by: alf on Wednesday 09 November 05 13:52 GMT (UK)
Hi Tati

No I do not have them, but many thanks for the information, I can  now start to go backwards

Any help is very much appreciated

Alf
Title: Re: Beard (Oldbury)
Post by: Beardie on Sunday 09 July 06 23:54 BST (UK)
hello alf , i hope all is well with you!

tati, that is my lot that is listed ;D

my great grandfather is joseph working as a puddler aged 14!

strange thing is when i was born in 1966, my parents were living in 38, bridge street. we moved a long way in 75 years!

beardie

Title: Re: Beard (Oldbury)
Post by: Puffcat on Thursday 13 July 06 17:29 BST (UK)

My Mother's cousin was a Beard who was an alderman and mayor of Oldbury in the 1930s. Does he fit into the picture. My Beards came to Aston Birmingham from Shropshire.
Title: Re: Beard (Oldbury)
Post by: Beardie on Saturday 15 July 06 11:23 BST (UK)
hello ebn,
i asked my old man and he said we are not related to them beards!
i sure there is a picture of alderman beard in terry daniel's about oldbury but at the moment i seem not to be able to find it! the book that is!

sorry for taking so long to get back to you!

beardie
Title: Re: Beard (Oldbury)
Post by: Puffcat on Saturday 15 July 06 11:51 BST (UK)

I have a picture of Alderman BEard and Wife in civic regalia but it has disappeared under our 'deep litter' system of filing we opeate here  :-[ :-[ :-[

Will check out the Daniels book of Oldbury.

Another interesting branch of the Beards is Bill and Ivor Beard who both got awarded the MBE for war services. Bill [ born 1906] son of William was in the Birmingham Fire Service.
Title: Re: Beard (Oldbury)
Post by: Beardie on Friday 09 November 07 10:44 GMT (UK)
hello alf,
how far did you manage to go back?

i managed to go back to edward beard on 1851 census(aged 24) born stoke prior worc. did you manage to find him on the 41 census?

thanks
beardie 
Title: Re: Beard (Oldbury)
Post by: Tati on Friday 09 November 07 12:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Beardie,

While we are waiting for Alf to get back ...

Any idea of Edward's parents?

Searching later census for potential siblings, I see there's a Joseph Beard born ca. 1833 Stoke

On the 1841 census, I see:
HO107/908/9 41 31
Hales Owen, Shropshire
Township of Oldbury
New Merty? T

Thos Beard, 45, Labourer, no
Edd, 13, Miner, no
Sarah, 11, no
Josh, 8, no
Harrit, 5, yes

A possible?  :)
Title: Re: Beard (Oldbury)
Post by: Puffcat on Friday 09 November 07 12:20 GMT (UK)
I did manage to get a copy of the book on Oldbury with a picture of Donald Beard when Mayor of Oldbury.
I have also now found the picture of him and his wife in the civic regalia.

PM me if you want a copy.

Dos anyone kow his father  and mother ?
Title: Re: Beard (Oldbury)
Post by: Beardie on Friday 09 November 07 13:54 GMT (UK)
Hi Beardie,

While we are waiting for Alf to get back ...

Any idea of Edward's parents?

Searching later census for potential siblings, I see there's a Joseph Beard born ca. 1833 Stoke

On the 1841 census, I see:
HO107/908/9 41 31
Hales Owen, Shropshire
Township of Oldbury
New Merty? T

Thos Beard, 45, Labourer, no
Edd, 13, Miner, no
Sarah, 11, no
Josh, 8, no
Harrit, 5, yes

A possible?  :)

thankyou tati youre a star!
someone has sent me a tree with thomas as his father(bap. oct 1795) so i think you might be spot on!

thanks
beardie
miner aged 13 >:(
Title: Re: Beard (Oldbury)
Post by: Tati on Friday 09 November 07 14:04 GMT (UK)
Do you have access to census, Beardie? Thomas with a wife Elizabeth and several children seem to be at HO107/2024 413 33 in 1851 :)
Title: Re: Beard (Oldbury)
Post by: Beardie on Friday 09 November 07 14:07 GMT (UK)
hi tati,
i havn't renewed me subs!, xmas is coming and my kids stare at me everytime i open me wallet ;D
beardie
Title: Re: Beard (Oldbury)
Post by: Tati on Friday 09 November 07 14:14 GMT (UK)
OK, here we go! Doing my best - struggling with the handwriting!

1851
HO107/2024 413 33
Oldbury, Worcestershire
Newtown

Thomas Beard, head, 48, Ag lab, b. Worcestershire Hamberslee?
Elizabeth, wife, 46, (sorry, can't read birthplace, maybe Stoke Prior)
Joseph, son, 17, Coal Miner, b. do.
Harret, dau, 14, b. Oldbury
Prissila, dau, 12, b. do.
Elizabeth, dau, 6, b. do.
Martha, dau, 8mo, b. do.
Thomas E Toley, son in law, mar, 20, Coal Miner, b. Staffs Tipton
Sarah Toley, dau, mar, 20, b. Worcestershire (can't read) 
Title: Re: Beard (Oldbury)
Post by: Tati on Friday 09 November 07 14:20 GMT (UK)
Back in 1841, Elizabeth Beard, 35 and Prissila Beard age 2 were to be  found in the same household as a William Powell, 60, Ag lab, b. Worcestershire at Stoke Prior.
HO107/1203/9 27 9
Title: Re: Beard (Oldbury)
Post by: Tati on Friday 09 November 07 14:30 GMT (UK)
1861
RG9/2022 14 24
Oldbury, Staffordshire
Junction Street

Thomas Beard, head, 70, colliery Lab, b. Umberlsey
Elizabeth, wife, 56, b. Stoke Prior
Elizabeth, dau, 16, scholar, b. Oldbury
Martha, dau, 10, scholar, b. do.

next door
Thomas Tolley, head, 32, Coal miner, b. Staffordshire Tipton
Sarah, wife, 30, b. Stoke Prior

Thomas (age 80, Farm Labourer) and Elizabeth (age 65, Laundress) are still around in 1871, with grandson Henry age 4 born Oldbury

Wonder if this marriage is relevant?
29 Sep 1823 Omberlsey Worcestershire
Thomas Beard - Elizabeth Powell
(source IGI)
Title: Re: Beard (Oldbury)
Post by: Beardie on Friday 09 November 07 16:25 GMT (UK)
thankyou tati youre a supanova! :D

some people have a tree, mine is more like a mushroom cloud! :o

thanks again
beardie