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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: foxglove on Sunday 29 August 04 17:01 BST (UK)
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Is anyone else interested in Pickering families from Londonderry? Also Wilson, and possibly Lavender.
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Hiya foxglove,
When would these families have been living in Derry?
The 1852 Directory of Belfast and the Province of Ulster lists two Wilsons.
Wilson, J & R, corn and general merchants, and agents for the Standard Life Assurance Company, Foyle Street
William Wilson, Ulster Arms Hotel, Foyle Street
All the Best, Christopher
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Hello Christopher,
Many thanks for your reply to my query.
My 3rd g. grandmother Matilda Wilson was born about 1793 at Aughrim, Woods Chapel, Londonderry.
I have no other information about her Wilson family.
She and her husband came to Canada in 1847.
I will keep a note of the Wilsons you found for me as it is always possible they are in some way related.
Thanks again,
Foxglove
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Hi
Have just started doing my husbands side of the family, I have William Henry Pickering married to
Ellen Stewart 09 Jan 1907 at Bellaghy Co Londonderry, wonder if you would know anything about
this side.
Regards Helen
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Hello Helen,
Judging by the map it looks as though your Pickerings were quite likely connected to mine at some point.
My family left the Aughrim area (due east of Magherafelt and directly south of Castledawson) in 1847.
My 3rd great grandfather was a William Pickering.
His son Francis was my 2nd great grandfather.
Francis had a brother, Robert, who went to Scotland in the mid-1850's instead of going to Canada with the rest of the family.
If you can find out more about previous generations in your line, we may be able to connect them.
I am also in touch with someone who is from a Pickeram family from the Tillinkissey/Magherafelt area.
We believe the spelling may be different but they are probably from the same family.
From the IGI, there appears to have been 3 Pickering men in that area, back in the early 1700's.
Hope this is of some interest.
Regards,
Foxglove
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Foxglove,
I have a Matilda Wilson in my tree married to a James McGauchie McGachie McGeachie and other variations. Just mentioning in case it is a match. I couldn't find any information regarding death or marriage so it is a possibility they went to Canada. I believe she was from Londonderry. Let me know if yours might have married a James McGauchie.
Wayne
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Hi Wayne,
My Matilda Wilson married William Pickering.
William was born 1789 at Aughrim, Woods Chapel, Londonderry.
It is believed that Matilda Wilson was born at the same location about 1793, but I have no further information about her family.
Their first child was born in 1815 so it is not likely that Matilda had a previous marriage.
I checked at www.familysearch.org and see that there are not many entires for the name McGauchie/McGachie/McGeachie in Ireland.
It I do run across anything in the future I will let you know.
Regards,
Carol.
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I'm not sure if you saw the reply to this. for some reason I was notified that it had been transferred to Down, Ireland. I have information regarding the McGauchies going to Dumfries, Scotland. That seems to be the main place for them and they are still there. John McGauchie married Ann Smith. He was born in Down Ireland but married in Dumfries. Their sons were - William b 1823, Joseph b 1825, Robert b 1836 all of whom stayed in Dumfries. This may be of interest to you.
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Andrea- I moved your post to Co. Down board since your James McGauchie was born in Co., Down and had moved to Scotland and I could see no Co, Derry connection.
Wayne- do you have any idea of date for Matilda Wilson's marriage? Wilson is a very common Ulster surname but I can't see any record of the marriage in Co. Derry.
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Is anyone else interested in Pickering families from Londonderry? Also Wilson, and possibly Lavender.
Griffith's Valuation (1848-64) lists nine families named Lavender in Ireland. They were located in Counties Antrim. Dublin, Roscommon, Sligo and Wicklow.
Ah good ... that's better ... back on the Derry board ... I'm sure the Pickering and Wilson families of Co. Londonderry were a bit confused by being moved around like that 8)
A Co. Down thread for the McGauchie family might be an idea.
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Christopher- Andrea posted here looking for her James McGauchie from Co. Down, I moved it to County Down and then Andrea replied on this board. If you want to see the County Down thread:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,331241.msg2112783.html#msg2112783
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That makes sense ... a thread on each board 8)
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Thanks for your help. I am new to this site so a little at sea. I have been doing family history research for many years but have only just discovered the Irish connection. Andrea
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Hi guys,
The Castledawson, County Derry section of the 1910 Belfast and Ulster Towns Directory lists the following ... www.libraryireland.com/UlsterDirectory1910/Castledawson.php
Pickering, Robert, mason, Aughagaskin
Pickering, Thomas, egg merchant, Tamnadace
Pickering, W. J., grocer
The magherafelt.gov.uk website shows that there were Pickerings buried at Christ Church, Castledawson. http://castledawson.derry.anglican.org
Lance-Corporal Tom Pickering, Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, Tamnadace
1914-19 Roll of Honour at the Castledawson and Curran Presbyterian Church. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~econnolly/roh/rohcastledawson.html
Christopher
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Hi Christopher,
Thank you for this latest information on Pickering which you posted in October of 2008.
I just happened to find it by chance. I thought we were supposed to receive e-mail notification when information was posted in response to our queries but I am not receiving anything.
Thanks again........these are probably related to me in some way.
Cheers,
Foxglove
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There are two ways of finding replies to your posts- email notifications (do you have that option selected? and is the email address you've registrered with up-to-date?) and clicking 'show new replies to your posts' when you are logged in.
Here's the help page:
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And the section re: no notifications:
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Thank you, Aghadowey........I always used to receive e-mail notifications and have not done anything differently.....address is still the same. I will have to figure out where I need to look to see if I still have that option selected.......I know I didn't change it.
Thanks again,
Foxglove
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Hello;
I am interested in Pickering/Pickeram and the way we spell our name here in Canada now, Pickrem. My great-great-great grandfather, James Pickering born 1801 in Aughrim, Magherafelt, Londonderry marreid Sarah Glassey b. 1805 from the same place and married here as well in abt 1826 or 1828.
I believe some of their children were born in Ireland, then they left for Canada where the remainder were born. Family lore has it that their son, John was born aboard ship enroute to Nova Scotia, Canada abt 1840.
I am very interested in finding out who his parents and siblings were as well as Sarah Glassey's. Any help or info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks;
Susieque
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I have had some success on the LDS site with finding two of my ggg-grandfather's children. There place of birth is listed as Aughrim, Woods Chapel, Londonderry. William John Pickerin b. 02 Dec, 1827 and Mary Jane Pickerin b. 04 Apr, 1829.
I am sure that James Pickering (or any variant spelling of the name) and Sarah (Glassey) had more children born in this area of Ireland before leaving for Canada. My gg-grandfather, John Simpson Pickering was born in 1843, enroute. That makes 16 years between the birth of Wm and John.
I also wonder about John's middle name, Simpson, and how it may fit into the picture. Is Simpson a common name from this area? Any input would be appreciated. Thanks
Susieque129
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Hi all
My surname is Pickering. I was born(1945) and brought up in Castledawson; County Londonderry; N. Ireland. This is a village approx.2/3 miles from Magherafelt and Aughrim. Woods Chapel as referred to, should read Woods Church. Pickeram should read Pickering. This mis-pronounciation was due to accent/bad diction. (The same confusion occured when my own father travelled to Philadelphia in the late twenties).I have just started to research my ancestory and I am sure that we are linked in some way. My father was named William James as was my grandfather and great-grandfather. I am sure the Aghadowey and County Down connections are a different branch.
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Welcome to Rootschat. I've no connections to this family but was merely posting on the thread. You'll find Woods Chapel mentioned in old records like this bit from Lewis' Topographical Dictionary:
www.libraryireland.com/Lewis/LewisW/24-WOODS-CHAPEL.php
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Hi,
Very pleased to hear from you. Yes I agree we must be related. Can you give me dates for your various William James Pickerings.
Carol
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Carol,
The information which you are looking for is a bit early for Irish records. However in your original post you expressed an interest in the names Lavender and Wilson. I have found
John Lavender married Esther PICKRAM in Woods Chapel Church of Ireland 16 Feb 1850 and
Henry Pickering married Isabella Wilson in Castledawson Presbyterian Church 28 Dec 1877
Regards
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Hello;
I believe we are connected as well. My James' first born being William...
James had a son John, who had a daughter he named Esther. It is difficult to find any concrete info on my James and Sarah because of the time frame they were born and the lost records in the fire at the archives.
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I too have a Pickering/Wilson connection. My great great grandparents were Henry Pickering & Isabella Wilson and thanks to this thread, I found out their exact marriage date (thanks kingskerswell). I believe they had 9 children, 1 being my great grandmother, Margaret Pickering, who ended up in Staten Island, NY. I have taken 2 trips to this area (N. Antrim) from the US and have fallen in love with the place. I can't believe I was so close to Magherafelt and so much family history and didn't even know it. Can't wait to make the next trip & learn more. I do have some other names & dates if any of my "cousins" are interested:)
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Hi, I have Pickering ancestors from the same area too.
Foxglove, I am wondering if your Frances Pickering is a brother of my greatx4 grandfather Benjamin Pickering? He is listed living with his brothers Frances and George Pickering in the griffiths valuation. His son George also moved to Scotland.
Land5, George is the brother of your great great grandfather Henry Pickering. Georges son Samuel used Henry and Isabella as his contactable address in Ireland when he lived in Scotland :)
I am interested to share more and find out more about the Pickerings
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Hello Land5,
I have come across Pickerings in my research. I do have Henry Pickering and Isabella Wilson but didn't have their daughter Margaret. I did have 8 other childfren. Can you tell me when Margaret was born? thanks
Peggy
Quote - My great great grandparents were Henry Pickering & Isabella Wilson and thanks to this thread, I found out their exact marriage date (thanks kingskerswell). I believe they had 9 children, 1 being my great grandmother, Margaret Pickering, who ended up in Staten Island, NY.
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I have another Henry Pickering on my tree, father George although I don't know Henry's mother's name. Henry was born abt 1839 and married Sarah Brown Apr 26, 1881 in the Presbyterian Church in Magherafetl. Sarah's father was Thomas.
Henry died Jan 13, 1918 and his cousin Wesley McGuckin was present. i have learned that Wesley was John Wesley McGuckin and he married Elizabeth Hipson in 1872 in Desertmartin and his father was John. Does anyone have any idea how Henry Pickering and Wesley McGuckin are cousins? I have been trying to figure that one out.
Thanks for any help.
Peggy
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So many different possibilities- maybe something in family Wills?
Probate of the Will of Henry Pickering late of Durnascallon, Co. Londonderry, farmer, who died 13 January 1918 granted at Londonderry to Rev. William Wilson Mercier, Dromore, clerk in Holy Orders and James Corr, Durnascallon, farmer. Effects: £22 10s 0d
McGuckin John Wesley of "Hollymount" Durnascallion Desertmartin county Londonderry farmer died 16 July 1931 Probate Londonderry 18 March to George McGuckin farmer. Effects £372 6s. 8d
McGuckin Robert of Hollymount Desertmartin county Londonderry farmer died 2 November 1954 Probate Belfast 3 January to Dermot Storey Badger solicitor. Effects £1882 16s. 6d
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Thank you aghadowey. That is probably best, or obits.
Peggy