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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Renfrewshire => Topic started by: bones on Thursday 03 November 05 20:52 GMT (UK)
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Hi, I was wondering if someone could be of assistance. I'm trying to find Daniel Bonar in the 1901 census for Greenock he would have been 2 or 3 years old and his father was Charles. Hope someone can help.
John
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do you have any other details ? i have bonar in my husbands line, but dont have the details to hand, will try to look them out in next day or so, and will get back to you.
gill
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Hi Gill, I've been using Daniel Bonar to trace my grandfather. Daniel was a Major in the Highland Light Infantry and he died in Dairsie in March 1988 (an uncle was at his funeral) Daniel's father Charles Bonar, was my g-father John Bonar's brother.
Charles Bonar married in April 1896 to a widow Anne McCabe nee Murphy and died in 1924 aged 53yrs. Daniel was born in November 1898 and may have had a brother John.
I have found what appears to be Charles Bonnar (22yrs) & John Bonnar my g-father (20yrs) in the 1891 census as boarders with William Huskins at 22, Charles Street Greenock West.
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hi bones, i havent had time to look through my own data yet to see if there is a connection............two babies and not much free time.
I have had a look on scotlands people at the 1901 census and this seems to fit what you are looking for
9 Crawford Street, Greenock
Bonar, Charles--head--33--sugarhouse labourer--born Greenock, Renfrewshire
Bonar, Annie--wife--26--born Greenock, Renfrewshire
Bonar, John--son--4--born Greenock, Renfrewshire
Bonar, Daniel--son--2--born Greenock, Renfrewshire
Bonar, James--son--5months-- born Greenock, Renfrewshire
Murphy, Charles--stepson--6-- born Greenock, Renfrewshire
McCabe, Mary--sis in law--11--sholar--born Glasgow, Lanarkshire
McCabe, William--bro in law--19--railway carter-- born Greenock, Renfrewshire
hope this helps you
Gill
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Many thanks Gill these are my Bonars
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I chanced upon this website when I entered the name Major Dan Bonar into Google. I remember Major Dan Bonar well. He taught me the bagpipes when I was a girl in Malta, aged about 11. He was a brilliant teacher. He told me that he had become a Major because 'all the others were shot'. He had a wife called Violet. I remember Violet because she once said to me 'You'll never get anywhere with an accent like that.' She came from inverness I think, though I'm not sure. Major Bonar was a little scared of her and used to tell me to play the pipes while he drank some of his 'medicine' (whisky) from his secret cupboard! He hoped that Violet (or 'violent' as I called her to myself!) wouldn't hear him opening the cupboard with me playing! He would not accept money for his teaching, so my mother used to buy him bottles of whisky! He taught me to play slowly until I had mastered the gracenotes and then he said that speed would come. He gave me the music book which he treasured from his regiment. I still have it in a safe place somewhere. I remember that he wore full Highland dress in Malta. He taught the scouts there and was a much loved character. When the scouts played the pipes to greet Colonel Gadaffi and Mintoff they played Scotland the Brave. I thought that was hilarious! I don't know anything else to help in your research, though I remember that he did tell me that he came from Greenock. I hope your research has proved fruitful. If ever you wish to speak to me, I shall be happy to be contacted. Moyra A Borg ...user name MABorg
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hi ---
my husbands parents were very friendly with a dan and violet bonar.
he was major dan and a lovely man.i have just been searching for him in the new 1911 census --aged 12---no luck at first but i found him eventually
--under dan bonar--in the industral school for boys in greenock.
he and 2 of his brothers had been put in there .
his father i found as a sugar house worker in lodgings in greenock---where was the mother?---i checked --she didn't die till1921. why were they put in care?
phoned about this oral history at the mclean museum today that major dan had contributed later in life.
turns out the mother was an alcoholic and the father couldn't work and look after them--poor things!!!!!
you can't be descended from dan as he had no children so it must be from some of the other bonar brothers or dan's uncles.
let me know if you need any more info- best wishes from joyce
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Mothers name was McNab. My grandfather Dougie McNab married an Annie Bonar who was the daughter of James and Sarah Bonar who came from East Crawford St or Arthur Street. Annie passed away in 1939 during childbirth. Her Grandfather or great grandfather was Daniel Bonar.
Dont know if it's the same family. I have alot of other info i traced through Scotlandspeople.org that i might be able to help !
Alan
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hi alan--
I am not a bonar descendant but i am interested in major dan bonar mbe as he and his wife violet were family friends.
in the 1871 census his father charles is age 2 with his grandparents --john and rose bonar at shaw street,greenock.both grandparents born ireland
and charles born greenock. since charles called his son daniel ( my major bonar,age 2 in the 1901 census) I suppose a descendant may have been daniel bonar too.
can you find these names on your bonar tree.?
from joyce
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Hi Joyce, I will have a good look at the info tonight and check, i am still currently serving in the Army albeit in my last 12 mths. Would be nice to know we had military on my mothers mother side of the family if it's the same family that is
Regards
Alan
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Hi Joyce, apologies in being late in getting back to you.
I have looked through all the info i have and it's not the same family line.
Hope you find more info though
Alan
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I can only find this record and hope it helps.
Living at 9 Crawford Street
1901 Census Greenock
Name Position Occupation Age Where Born
Charles Bonar Head Sugarhouse Lab 33 Renfrewshire Greenock
Annie " Wife 26 "
John " Son 4 "
Daniel " " 2 "
James " " 5m "
Charles Murphy Step Son 6 "
Mary McGabe Sister-In-Law Scholar 11 Lanarkshire Glasgow
William " Brother-In-Law Railway Carter 19 Renfrewshire Greenock
If you want a copy of the image (obtained Scotlandspeople) then I can attach it to an e-mail.