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Hi
Does anybody know what the fourth name on the attachment is? The transcription is Phery and the more I stare, the less I can think!!! Does anybody have any ideas?
Kerry
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Looking at the names of the siblings one would guess that it wouldnt be too unusual a name. However, they can suprise you sometimes. I will carry on staring.
Linmey.
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Is it male or female? If male, Philip is a possibility, though I'm not convinced.
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I wonder if the enumerator took a guess at the spelling rather than asking. There is an Ann Phenie Buxton born March qtr 1876 Mansfield Derbyshire/Nottingham 7b 91.
Failing it being this one, can you give us details of the census you found them in and we can try other years.
Mary
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Hi all and thank you
Good point Liz, it's a daughter!
This is from 1851 census, Hackney, Middx and she was 18 at time of census making her born 1833. I have looked for James and Alice through other census records with no luck but Buxton seems to regularly get transcribed for something else.
In fact this one I found under Baston. You can just see why!
Thanks
Kerry
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It certainly looks like Phery to me. I had a look in 1851 for anyone else called that and there is another one.. in Marylebone - the name on the scan looks exactly the same. I have one family where all the children were called perfectly normal things except the one called Albany... who seems to have been christened William but then known as Albany throughout his childhood before reverting to William again.... maybe it could be something like that?
Just a thought ???
Veron
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Veron
You are right, it really doesn't look like anything else, I am going to continue to find her elsewhere and see what happens. I will look at the other on in Marylebone.
Very unusual name - I wonder where it comes from??
Kerry
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When you type the word Phery into Google it comes up with
Dormancy of germination of heteromorphic achenes of bidenes frondosa.
We knew that didnt we!!
Linmey
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The more I look at that capital letter, the less I know what it is.
How about Shery?
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When you type the word Phery into Google it comes up with
Dormancy of germination of heteromorphic achenes of bidenes frondosa.
We knew that didnt we!!
Linmey
Pardon!!!
:o :o :o :o :o :o
Kerry
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I thought it looked like 'Pheres' but could find no record. Do you have the name of the mother?
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Hi
The mother's name is Alice - very ordinary!!
Kerry
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Hi Kerry,
Sorry to pester you again but I am on a mission and am determined to solve this for you, or at least try my best! What was Alice's (the mother) maiden name? If you can give me that I think I might be able to search a bit deeper!
Andrea
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Andrea
Thanks for your persistence. Unfortunately I don't know what Alice's maiden name was at present. That will be the next step. I'll let you know if I find anything.
Kerry
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Hi Kerry
My thoughts on the name (for what they're worth ;) )
(is that definately a 'y' on the end - does it match any other 'y's?)
It could be the enumerator misheard Phoebe - there are several Phoebe Buxton entries on freebmd
Could it be a shortened version of something else? Euphenia/Euphemia? Maybe the enumerator couldn't read back his writing and he originally wrote Pheny?
Not sure this helps any though :P
Helen
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Hi Kerry,
I managed to download the entire page for this family for the 1851 Census and the name is definitely recorded as Phery Baston. Do you have the whole of the page? If not I can forward it to you. Haven't managed to come up with anything else just yet but will keep a look out as I research further!
Andrea
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Kerry,
Could you please possibly provide all details of the census entry - and anything else you might have about these people (not necessarily images as this might breach copyright).
Anything at all - however trivial and including birthplaces, etc - that you know might just help RootsChatters to help you!
JAP
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No Problem JAP
Here is the 1851 census record transcribed:
The address is 1 Matthias Place, Tower Hamlets, Hackney
James Buxton Head Marr 62 Roadsman? Born Herts Chesthunt
Alice Buxton wife 60 born Hackney
Emma Buxton dau 20 Laundress born Hackney
Phery Buxton dau 18 born Hackney
Harriet Buxton dau 10 Scholar born Hackney
HO107/1504 Folio 221 Page 7
That is the only census record I have of them as a family. Emma in 1852 married William Henry Baldwin. I have a copy of the marriage cert which shows them living at 28 Minerva Street Bethnal Green and her father is James Buxton, Labourer. The witnesses to the wedding where James and a Susan Buxton, as yet unidentified. They lived in Hackney and I have census records for other years showing her born in Hackney.
I have not managed to find any other census records for James and Sarah, perhaps he died before 1861, but then again Buxton is very easy to transcribe as other names. This one was under Baston.
Any help most gratefully received.
Kerry
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Hi Kerry
Just had a quick look at freebmd for any Phery - not one!
However, there are two Pheny and two Phenyl entries - sadly not one for Buxton though.
Helen
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on freebmd there is a pheobe buxton died june quarter 1851 district given a h# .in fact detail gives name as ph be. maybe u find no further record because of death
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Pat
I have had a look and you could be right, I think the H# could be Hackney but it is very difficult to read!
Kerry
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Here you go if anybody wants to try and decipher this one!:
It is the ith name down, I have left some of the others to help with numbers etc.
Kerry
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Hello Kerry,
I've been looking at this and its definitely 'Hackney'. I think the Volume is III (3) and the page is difficult! Maybe 135?
Regards,
John
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I have now received birth certificate for Harriet born 1840. Daughter of James Buxton and Alice Timms. They lived at 5 Abbotts Street, West Hackney. Would somebody be able to look this address up on the 1841 census and see if they were still there please?
Thank you
Kerry