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I am looking for any information of the family of
Joseph Smith married to Sarah Corderoy in 1876 in Bethnal Green
Is anyone else reseaching these names please, any help appreciated
with thanks
Jenny NZ
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Hello, Jenny.
I am not connected im any way with your 2 names but I think you will find the following interesting.
1871 census
RG10/488 folio 8 page 9
27, Cudworth Road, Bethnal Green
John M. Smith age 54 Furrier b Belgium
Caroline wife age 50 b St Lukes
Joseph son age 21 Shoemaker b Clerkenwell
Leonora dau age 20 ditto b Whitechapel
Lewis son age 11 b ditto
Julius son age 9 b ditto
Caroline dau age 8 b ditto
John M. Smith age 23 shoremaker b Clerkenwell
Emily wife age 22 b Stanstead , Essex.
1871 census
RG10/492 folio 17 page 27
3, Trafalgar Place, Bethnal Green
Jane Corderoy widow age 36 Hawker b Bethnal Green
Eliza dau age 25 Laundress b ditto
Henry son age 19 Hawker b ditto
Sarah dau age 16 ditto b ditto
John son age 14? Lab. b dittp
1881 census
Rg11/411 folio 109 page 48
6, Amos Place,,Betham Green
Joseph Smith age 25 Bootmaker b St Lukes
Sarah wife age 27 b Whitechapel
Joseph son age 4 b Clerkenwell
Eliza dau age 11 mths b St.Lukes
1891 census
Rg12/257 folio 122 page 46
13. Nelson Place, St. Matthews Bethnal Green
Joseph Smith age 35 Boot Laster b St Lukes
Sarah wife age 38 b Whitechapel
Eliza dau age 12 b St.Lukes
Rose dau age 9 b Canada, British subject
Henry son age 7 b Bethnal Green
Marion dau age 5 b ditto
Harriet dau age 2 b ditto
Alice son ? age 1 b ditto
1901 census
RG12/282 folio 66 page 59
135, Columbia Rd Bethnal Green
Joseph age 44 Shoemaker b St Lukes
Sarah wife age 48 b Whitechapel
Joseph son age 24 Fish Fryer b Clerkenwell
Eliza dau 20 Cigar maker b St. Lukes
Rose dau age 19 b Canada
Henry son age 17 Greengrocer's Ass. b Bethnal Green
Marion dau age 15, Boot machinist b ditto
Harriet dau age 12 b ditto
Alice dau age 11 b ditto
Jessie dau age 8 b ditto
George son age 3 b ditto
They seem to have mislaid son Joseph on the 1891 census, I cannot find him eslewhere, it is possible the enumnerator simply did not enter him.
I could not find any entry that seemed correct in the 1861 census
I hope all ths is of use to you,
Meliora
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Hello Meliora,
Thank you very much for all the lookps you did, and yes they are a big help, and like you say they are interesting, esp: the one child that was born in Canada, and so interesting what different ones did for a living, gives you a bit of an insight on how they lived back then
Jenny
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Hi Jenny
I have just come across this post and think that you may have gotten mixed up here.
The information posted for 1881,1891 and 1901 all concern the family of Joseph Smith and Sarah Green married 1874 in Shoreditch.
The George Smith aged 3 in 1901 was my Grandfather.
Andy
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Hi Andy,
So pleased you picked that up, I to have a Joseph Smith who was a boot maker in Bethnal Green, one of his Daughter's ( Alice ) was my Granmother, she married in 1903
to William Suggett,
I will have to start again to look for my Joseph Smith who married Sarah Corderoy
Jenny
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What other information do you have to confirm that this might be the right family?
1901 census RG13 225 folio 24
23 Duncan Square Hackney London
Joseph Smith 49 Hackney, London, Head Married Boot finisher
Sarah Smith 42 Bethnal Green, London, Wife Married
Sarah Smith 22 Bethnal Green, London, Daughter Boot Machinist
Alice Smith 19 Bethnal Green, London, Daughter Boot Machinist
Frederick Smith 15 Bethnal Green, London, Son Van Guard
Alfred Smith 13 Bethnal Green, London, Son
Elizabeth Smith 11 Hackney, London, Daughter
Florence Smith 8 Hackney, London, Daughter
1891 census RG12 97
31 Duncan Square Hackney London
Joseph Smith 38 Bethnal Green, London, Head Married Bootfinisher
Sarah Smith 32 Bethnal Green, London, Wife Married
Sarah Smith 12 Bethnal Green, London, Daughter
Joseph Smith 10 Bethnal Green, London, Son
Alice Smith 8 Bethnal Green, London, Daughter
Fredk Smith 5 Bethnal Green, London, Son
Alfred Smith 3 Bethnal Green, London, Son
Elizth Smith ½ Bethnal Green, London, Daughter
1881 census RG11 428 folio 31
14 Blyth Street Bethnal Green London
Joseph Smith 27 Loughborough, Leicestershire, Head Married Bootfinisher
Sarah Smith 21 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, Wife Married Bootfinisher's wife
Sarah Smith 1 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, Daughter
Joseph Smith 3mths Bethnal Green, Middlesex, Son
Regards
Valda
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1871 census RG10 474 folio 15
18 Halfefield? Street Bethnal Green London
George Corderoy 31 Bethnal Green Head Married Wood Carver
Sarah Corderoy 30 Bethnal Green Wife Married
Sarah Corderoy 12 Bethnal Green Daughter
Caroline Corderoy 8 Bethnal Green Daughter
Martha Corderoy 4 Bethnal Green Daughter
Elizabeth Corderoy 1 Bethnal Green Daughter
Sidney Corderoy 15 Shoreditch Brother-in-law Paper hanger
Regards
Valda
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Valda, Thank you very much, you were correct in what you sent, my Sarah Corderoy was born 1859, & her parents were George & Sarah, when Sarh married Joseph Smith I beleive he moved into Blythe St where she was already living, the only two children I could find belonging to them were Alice, ( my grandmother ) & her brother Alf, as my Mum had spoke of him, I also believe Alfred had joined the Coldstream Guards,, I have had a devil of a job finding this Smith Family and still am
Jenny
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Hi Jenny
Glad you are on the right track now. I know how hard it is to find a Smith in London.
Good luck.
Andy
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I'm not sure if you are still working on this search as the last entry was in 2007.
If I'm on the right track, I"m looking for a Joseph and Sarah Smith who I believe had twin sons William and Thomas. William ended up in Canada but any further info may not be known to his family back in England.
Not sure if the Sarah you are looking for is the same as the one I am but thought I'd ask. Does this ring a bell at all?
I believe William and Thomas were baptised in Bethnal green in 1884 which I have documents of...just not 100% sure I have the right Smith's...but still trying...
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Hi, I am always looking for info; on the Smith's it's like looking for the Jones's,
but re; your Smith, I am really not sure, do you know what their Father did for a living,
I have Joseph Smith born 1852 as a bootmaker in Islington, London, but he was born in Leicestershire, Loughborough,
his wife was Sarah Corderoy, their daughter (my Grandmother) Alice Smith was born 1882 in Bethnal Green, you really need their birth certs to trace them back,
good luck with finding them
Jenny
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It is a tough job digging through all the Smith's. Fun though.
Not sure what the Jospeh Smith (my great grandfather) did for a living at this point in time. William and Thomas were baptized in Bethnal Green and I have seen documents for that, but no birth certificates as of yet.
I know that William was my grandfather and that he came to Canada leaving children behind in England, perhps a wife, but not sure. I just need to find the right William first. William was my dad's father and he tells me that Joseph and Sarah were his grandparents. He also says that William had a twin brother. I've come across a William and Thomas born in 1884 to Joseph and Sarah Smith but not even 100% sure if it is them.....one day, I'll figure it out.....
Thanks for replying...if you ever hear anything similar to this, I'm always here....
I'm also on ancestry.ca
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I am always here as well, if you find anything, did you get in touch with Andy on this post, some of these Smith's maybe his & their is a Rose in the 1891 & 1901 census aged 9 & 19, that was born in Canada, though the other family members were born in Bethnal Green, worth looking at,
Good luck with your research
Jenny
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Hi Jenny.
I don't know if I can help you or not, but I think the Sarah Smith (nee Corderoy) that you refer to might be my great-great aunt. My Great grandmother way Alice Berthelemy (nee Corderoy 1872 - 1946) and she has a sister Sarah, who was born in 1859 at 63 Old Nichol Street and died in 1887 (aged 28 years) Her married name was Smith. I don't know a great deal about Sarah, but I have been exploring a bit of family history and might have pieces of the jigsaw that you do not, Also my Mum is still alive and will be 90 years old in September. As mentioned above, her grandmother was Sarah's younger sister and Mum is very clear minded and can remember her grandmother well - she might remember something?!
Please let me know if you think I can be of assistance.
Alison
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Hi Alison, sorry it has taken awhile to get back to you, it is holiday time over here in NZ and have been away,
thank you for getting in touch, my gr. grandmother is Sarah Corderoy born: 15 Feb 1859, who married Joseph Smith, I know little about them, Sarah parents are George Corderoy born: 1840-1911 and Sarah (nee) Reynolds born: 1841- 1887
my grandmother was Alice Smith who married William Suggett
Sarah born 1859 was born at 63 Old Nichol St, Bethnal Green
if you want to get in touch my e-mail is
jennybp@xtra.co.nz
Many Thanks Jenny
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I have no personal connection at all, but am fascinated by the name "Corderoy" as I assume it must have something to do with the fabric.
You might want to look at this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corduroy
Apparently the fabric is known as "Manchester" in some parts of Europe, which may turn out to be a clue at some stage?
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It may not be to do with the fabric. I have the name Corderey or Cordrey in my tree , going back to the early 1700s. According to surnamedb.com Cordery , Corderoy and other variations come from the Old French , cuer de roi , meaning king's heart :
http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Corderoy
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Thank you, that is very interesting, I don,t know much about the Corderoy side of the family at the moment only that they lived in London, I don,t think I would have associated the material with them though, but everything is worth looking into when doing research
Clare