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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Shropshire => England => Shropshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Dave Male on Friday 28 October 05 18:10 BST (UK)
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Good Evening :)
I would be grateful for any information regarding the family which includes Thomas Belch born c1842 - subsequent censuses show him to be in the Westbury area, but this is not certain for 1851.
Kind Regards - Dave
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Now dont ask me how I have come to this conclusion but I have, dont remember how i got to here coz its hours since i started looking for your man but i think ive nailed him,see what you think
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1851 cencus Tipton-Staffordshire
HO1072029-146
Upper Green
They are both transcribed and enumerated as BACH and were probably called BALCHthey are on the IGI anyway
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Richard 41 head b Bitterley-Shropshire Coal miner
Maria 38 wife b " "
Thomas 11 son b Dudley-Worcs
Sarah Ann 5 dau b Tipton
William Henry 2m son b Tipton
Elizabeth Millender Servant
IGI also as Maria as Margaret
Joe
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Hi Joe (& Dave)
This had me going as well!
Unfortunately if you check the Richard & Maria family in 1861 then Thomas is still living with them. The Thomas that Dave is looking for, is a servant on Hurst Farm in Westbury at the time of the 1861 census (assuming Ive got the one hes referring too!).
Anyway, this is my best calculated guess (although his age is dodgy).
1851 Wales (don't you love places on the border)
Ref: HO107/1991/166 Page 15
Address: Crew Green, Township of Bauseley (a couple of miles north west of Alberbury his birth place quoted in 1861)
Thomas Jones Head M 31 Maltster 1 man 1 boy Montgomery, Guildsfield
Martha Jones Wife M 29 Montgomery, Lland?nio
La??sa Jones Daur 6 Montgomery, Alberbury
Infant Daur 1month Montgomery, Alberbury
Elizabeth Jones Visitor U 28 Montgomery, Guildsfield
Thomas Bel?h Servt U 1? Montgomery, Alberbury
Thomas Pryce Servant Widower 61 Malt Maker Montgomery, Guildsfield
? in place of unreadable letters. I cant honestly make the missing letter a c in his surname. The second figure on his age may be 4, hence the age being a bit dodgy.
Anyway, its the best I can come up with. Good luck with the hunt.
John
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WoW John, thank goodness you have found the right one as I could have sent Dave down the road to hell!!!!!!!. I just never thought to venture into Wales . Well done you deserve a medal for that.
So Dave scrub my post as i think you have him now
Joe
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Hi again
Got so fixed on Thomas that I forgot the family.
1851 Wales
Ref: HO107/1991/160 Page 2
Address: Caydway, Bauseley. (think it might be Coedway now between Alberbury and Crew Green)
All surnames Bel?h (a c, who knows looks more like an s to me)
Richard Head M 3? Farm Labourer Salop,
Margaret Wife M 37 Montgomery, Bau?ley
John Son 13
Mary Daur 7
Jane Daur 3
Sarah Daur 5 Scholar
William Son 10m
The second figure for Richard may be 4. All the children share the same birth place as Margaret guess its Bauseley but its squeezed in on the form. I confirm the ages, dont know why they are out of order?
Ah I can go to bed now.
All the best
John
Thanks Joe - Cheers
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Hi again John
I saw the Bausely connection on the 1881 which says that Richard and Margaret were both born Bausley, Shropshire plus i didnt realise Shropshire is so close to Wales maybe thats what threw me
:-[
Joe
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Hi Joe and John
Super effort by you both - many thanks indeed.
The surname of Belch, just about sums up my feelings for searching for this chap - and now he's been found in Wales with more stomach churning place names to consider. ;D
Very Grateful to you Both - Kind Regards - Dave
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Hi Dave IM desperatly hoping that the family John found is yours he really did go digging to find it and i feel ive bagged myself a new rootschat mate in him and we have had a good laugh both on the boards and by PM tonight
Joe
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Hi Joe
Glad that we've all had some fun with this - a glutton for punishment, I've now posted a request for the 1841 information also. >:( - feel sure that John found our man.
See that you are a night bird also? ;D
KR Dave
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I saw your postfor the 1841 shorly after you posted it and avoided it like the plague LOL
Maybe when John wakes up he will have a dig around for you
Joe
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Hi Joe
Can't say I blame you! ;D
KR Dave
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Hi Dave
Sorry to disappoint you , but I haven't got access to 1841.
Only wish I could help you further. I'm sure some kind soul will help you out.
Good luck
John
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Hi John
I await 1841 with everything crossed! ;D
Many thanks for your efforts.
Kind Regards - Dave