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Title: John McJannett/McJennett
Post by: Karen01 on Friday 28 October 05 09:16 BST (UK)
I am having trouble locating where John mcJannett was born. He married Mary Huthins 1801 Narborough Leicstershire. Unfortunately there seem to be many variations on his name such as McJennett when he married, Mack Jannett when his son was baptised. Any suggestions ???
Title: Re: John McJannett/McJennett
Post by: rachdun on Friday 18 November 05 10:28 GMT (UK)
Hi

I am also interested in finding out more about John McJannett; I believe him to be a relative of my ancestor Thomas McJannett who married Jane Botterill in Narborough in 1826.  I have so far been unable to trace either Thomas or John's baptisms.

It states on the 1851 Census (He lived in Battersea with wife Mary) that John McJannett was born in Wanstead, Essex in abt 1782.    I have not been able to check Wanstead baptisms as yet.

Thomas McJannett was in the army from abt 1805 to 1816, he was discharged to Pension in 1816 after being injured at the Battle of Waterloo.  These papers state that he was born in Clapham, as do the 1851 and 1861 Censuses of Narborough (He died in 1862)

I get the impression that the McJannett's could well have been non-conformists, so could be more difficult to trace.

Wish you luck in your search

Rachel Dunkley

Title: Re: John McJannett/McJennett
Post by: Karen01 on Friday 18 November 05 11:18 GMT (UK)
Rachel,
Thank you for your message. I have had trouble with the name McJannett as it seems to keep changing. John McJannett is my gt gt gt grandfather. Do you think that he and Thomas were perhaps brothers? If you manage to find anything out about parents could you please let me know. Have you looked on the IGI?
Regards
Karen Bida :) :)
Title: Re: John McJannett/McJennett
Post by: rachdun on Friday 18 November 05 22:11 GMT (UK)
Will certainly let you know if I find out anything.  Unfortunately, the IGI does not have the baptisms of either John or Thomas.  Wanstead and Clapham do not seem to be on the IGI as far as I can see.

It does, however, list the baptisms of John and Mary's children, and Thomas and Jane's, and the two marriages.  Do you know who the witnesses were to the marriage of John and Mary or Thomas and Jane?

There are a lot of variations on the spelling of the surname for John and Mary's children as follows:-

Jennet
Tennett
Jannett
Mackqennet?!! ;D

As you say, loads of different surnames!

Thomas and Jane's children are easier to trace as all seem to be put on under the name Jannett!

Title: Re: John McJannett/McJennett
Post by: Karen01 on Saturday 19 November 05 08:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Rachel
Sorry dont know who witnesses were, Are you a direct descendant of Thomas?  If you are interested and think it relevant to your tree i can let you have the info that i have regarding my line back to John and Mary
Best Wishes
Karen :)
Title: Re: John McJannett/McJennett
Post by: rachdun on Saturday 19 November 05 11:56 GMT (UK)
Thank You

I would love to see how you descend from John and Mary.

Here is my line back to Thomas and Jane:-

Ann McJannett
Title: Re: John McJannett/McJennett
Post by: rachdun on Saturday 19 November 05 12:03 GMT (UK)
Hi

Sorry about my previous posting, pressed wrong key :o

Am thinking actually that it might be better to send you the information as a GEDCOM File.

Would that be alright with you?

Rachel Dunkley

Title: Re: John McJannett/McJennett
Post by: Karen01 on Saturday 19 November 05 20:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Rachel
As you know John McJannet married Mary Hutchins 10/11/1801 in Narborough Leicestershire. The children that i have found are Elizabeth McJannett 08/08/1820 and James Hutchins mcJannett 22/2/1823. Have not found a marriage for Elizabeth but believe she ended up in service in Chelsea. James married Caroline Denby 16/04/1844 in Surrey. They had  the following children;-James H c1846
Caroline c1850
Martha c1854
Mary A c1860
Robert W c1851
Walter c1863
Violet c1866
Ellen c1865
Alice c1869
They were born in various places such as Clapham, Brixton, Kingston all in Surrey.
Alice married James Garner Wright 02/12/1889. They had as far as I know 3 children the first died at 3mths the second died aged 17 the third was my grandfather born 21/04/1912.
If you would like any further info please do not hesitate to ask
Karen :) :)
Title: Re: John McJannett/McJennett
Post by: rachdun on Sunday 20 November 05 10:23 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the info about your family :)

Rachel
Title: Re: John McJannett/McJennett
Post by: mick cooper on Wednesday 10 September 08 11:18 BST (UK)
Hello

I am researching the Mcjannett (and all its multitudinous spelling variations!!) family line and looking for help.

I have seen a few threads and, being a beginner on this site, am much confused as to how to make contact.  So I am posting this although I am not sure if it is in the right place.  No doubt some kindly soul will let me know.

I am particularly keen to hear from Karen Bida and Rachel Dunkley who are undoubtedly cousins (of some nth degree plus some removals!) and any of the other wonderful folk who help novices like me.

My line descends through William McJannett b 23/6/1805, d 2/9/1848 and who married Mary Ann Fenn (although I have not found the marriage).    I have reasonable amount of info on his descendants and also some info on his siblings - Ann 1802-14;   John 1808 - presumably died young;   Mary 1810 - ?;   John 1812/3 - ? who married Martha Thompson and produced several children including James whose marriage to Emma yielded children in the East End of London some of whom got a bit confused with my line (eg the two Rosina  births1871 Bethnal Green and 1876 Shoreditch);   Jane b 3/2/1816 d 1842 who married Thomas Gates;  Elizabeth b 8/8/1820 d 1886 who spent her life as a servant much of it in Chelsea;  James Hutchins b 22/2/1823 d 1910 and who married Caroline Denby and had at least 9 children and lots of descendants.

Going backwards is where I am stuck.   I am aware that their parents were John who married Mary Hutchins 10/11/1801 in Narborough.   I can see them in 1841 & 1851 just off Clapham Common and believe John probably died in 1858 and Mary in 1862.   I have not yet pinpointed John's birth (or therefore his parents) with the only clue showing Wanstead (oddly) and 1781/2 on the 1851 census.   Has anyone solved this one?

I am also aware of the line of Thomas Mcjannett (Mack Jannett) 1788 - 1862 who married Jane Botterill, and also suspect he was a brother of John.   Again I have not been able to pinpoint his birth in Clapham or parents although I wondered if his records from his time in 12th Dragoons (12 years from the age of 16 - wow!) might have helped.  Has anyone seen these or resolved the problem of his birth and parents?   

I am not sure if it is a coincidence but my William was apparently in the 13th Dragoons until he was 34 - has anyone seen these papers?

By the way, there was a George McJennett chr 6/8/1785 at Brickfield (non-conformist) congregational church in Stratford, East London, parents John & Ann.   Clearly from a location and date perspective there is a possibility that this is another brother.  Wanstead is not so very far away although Clapham is the other side of town (Clapton is a lot nearer!). 

Can anyone help please?   I will of course share anything that I have that interests anyone.

Thank you

Mick

Title: Re: John McJannett/McJennett
Post by: rachdun on Wednesday 10 September 08 14:36 BST (UK)
It is great to hear from you Mick

I have also hit a brick wall - I also suspect that your John and my Thomas were brothers, but have also been unable to prove it :-[ 

Do you know who the witnesses to John or Thomas's marriages were please?  I only have the record from the IGI and haven't been able to check the original records.

I'm afraid I can't help you with William's papers but I do have a copy of Thomas's discharge papers if you would like to see them. :)

Interesting about George - his baptism date would indeed fit in very nicely between John in abt 1782 and Thomas in abt 1788.

Rachel
Title: As he joined up at 16 I would have though his parebnts
Post by: mick cooper on Thursday 11 September 08 12:40 BST (UK)
Hey Rachel

Excellent to get your reply.  I am sure we must be cousins - I cannot believe that John and Thomas were not brothers.  How do we exchange email addresses?   I don't think we are meant to post them here and they seem to be hidden.  As I'm a novice here I'm not too sure how it works.   

Anyway, I do not have those marriage details of witnesses either.  Do you know where they are and how we can get to them?   I am abroad and only infrequently get back to the UK so I generally have to rely on the free online sites.   

Or some extra-ordinarily kind souls to look them up - JOHN McJENNETT to MARY HUTCHINS 10/11/1801 and THOMAS McJENNETT to JANE BOTTIRIL 16/5/1826 in NARBOROUGH, LEICESTER - anyone, please??

I would love to see a copy of Thomas's papers - how do you get them to me?   Is his service record available anywhere?   As he joined up at 16 I would have thought his parents names, at least, would have been mentioned.   

All I saw on William was that he was in the 13th Dragoons and that he was discharged when he was 34.   I suppose there must be more on the full record, presumably held at Kew. 

Have you checked for other papers and records, like wills, that might be around someplace? 

I'd like to see more of your ancestry - obviously I didn't follow Thomas & Jane further than his kids.   I am sure a direct email would be better for this.   

Did you ever communicate directly with Karen who is also plainly in this line?   

If George is a sibling then we have the parents John & Ann, not that that will take us anywhere very quickly!

Hope to hear from you soon

Mick